Deciding against suspension TSB

topdec · Oct 20, 2009

oldtacomaguy said: ↑

Hey Topdec, heres a couple of pictures of my 08 before and after TSB
before

after

I've been driving it for over 10,000 miles since the TSB was done and I'm happy with it. Pictures are just to help you decide if its for you. Good luck with the decision.
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Great pictures. Thanks much. Do you have stock front suspension?

Evil Monkey · Oct 20, 2009

JTDTacoma said: ↑

You thought about it too much. The ride isn't at all stiffer with the new springs, in fact it's better even with an empty bed. Much better actually. The tsb raised mine exactly one inch and isn't even noticable. The new springs are what should be put on at the factory in my opinion. Best thing I've done for my truck is the rear leaf tsb. Nice choice on the tires. Got that size on my sport too. If you want me to email you a pic of my sport post-tsb, with 265/70/17 tires then pm me your email and I'll send it from my iPhone. You will see how level the truck remained after the new springs.
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Ditto what JTDTacoma said. My truck was hitting the bump stops even unladen when going over a curb. The TSB upgrade made it ride better. The 5100s at 1.75 or .85 should continue to ride great without needing to get additional work done.
TSB springs w/stock front:

5100s set at 2.5" with TSB springs

PrezidentRedz · Oct 20, 2009

Good351 said: ↑

Reason I asked is I had a 99 TRD that got bought back by toyota...I liked how that truck handled loaded and unloaded. It was all stock.
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Yeah Man, Also the Shackle design on the 2nd gens are reversed.
So im sure that changes things.

oldtacomaguy · Oct 20, 2009

topdec[OP] said: ↑

Great pictures. Thanks much. Do you have stock front suspension?
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Front is stock.

rhoppas · Oct 20, 2009

rachunter said: ↑

I have had two Tacomas TRD Off-Roads a 2005 and now a 2008 model. In owning both of these trucks I have only had the rear end to bottom out one time and that was when I was hauling a 4-wheeler off-road over some very large bumps.
I also pull a 23' camper about 10 times a year and I have had zero problems and have never bottomed out while towing many, many miles.

I friend of mine has a Tacoma and has had the rear leaf tsb done on his truck and it does ride rougher and the rear end also sits up higher.
I know the rear end only raises up about 1 3/4" but to me that does not look good at all. I also know you can install the 5100's on the front to make the truck sit more level but then with the factory size tires on the trucks it leaves too much empty space between the tires and and the fenders to look good (my opinion only). So if I got the tsb I would also need to get a set of 5100's for the front and 4 larger tires to help fill the gap in the fender wells, I also have a different set of wheels I run in the summer so that is 4 more tires I would need to buy in order to get a look that I would be happy with and still I would have a rougher ride that I do not like.

So for me to get the tsb to fix a problem that I have only had once in 5 years of Tacoma ownership would not make any sense at all. Just because something is free does not mean that I need it.
I would much rather have my truck bottom out once every 5 years than to have the issues that I have listed above.

I do use my truck, I do haul loads and I do tow with my truck. I use it the way it was meant to be used and I have not had any issues besides the one incident listed above.
If I hauled bricks or stone or other very heavy material on a daily basis then maybe the tsb would be for me......but then again if I were going to haul that much on a daily basis I would have bought a bigger truck.

Again this is just one mans opinion and I do not expect everyone to agree with me and thats fine just remember you have you opinion and I am allowed to have mine.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I have had no issues with bottoming out and I sure as hell don't need a stiffer ride. There's no way I am getting the TSB done even if it is free.

Viet2100 · Oct 20, 2009

Geez, it's not like you guys are buying a car or a house. It's free, it fixes a known issue, and prevents further issues. Get it done while you can.

Evil Monkey · Oct 20, 2009

Viet2100 said: ↑

Geez, it's not like you guys are buying a car or a house. It's free, it fixes a known issue, and prevents further issues. Get it done while you can.
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Or see if they'll give you the parts to "do it yourself" and then sell them.

topdec · Oct 20, 2009

Viet2100 said: ↑

Geez, it's not like you guys are buying a car or a house. It's free, it fixes a known issue, and prevents further issues. Get it done while you can.
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You're truck looks very hip. What's your setup in the front?

topdec · Oct 20, 2009

Evil Monkey said: ↑

Or see if they'll give you the parts to "do it yourself" and then sell them.
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I wish they did but they won't do that.

Ocean's · Oct 26, 2009

Here's my New 2008 TRD Offraod 4x4 with only 29 miles! The Dealership said that they, "Lost it in inventory." So, i got a good deal.

I am too debating on whether to get it or not and I intend on pulling a 5200# Mastercraft.

I like the ride now, and It looks pretty high to begin with: I will measure and get some stats.

Was curious

how high a Stock Suspension with/without Tsb was/is?

And how high a TRD SPort is with/without is/was?

And how high a TRD Offroad is with/without is/was?

Hers is Stock 2008 TRd OffRoad.

Viet2100 · Oct 26, 2009

topdec[OP] said: ↑

You're truck looks very hip. What's your setup in the front?
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Setup?

JTDTacoma · Oct 26, 2009

At the center of my rear wheels, my wheel well pre-stb was 36.5". After the TSB springs it measures 37.5".
It is a 2008 DC TRD sport with 265/70/17 tires (tires up one size from stock)

topdec · Oct 28, 2009

Viet2100 said: ↑

Setup?
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Do you have upgraded front suspension? Did you have the TSB done?

Viet2100 · Oct 28, 2009

topdec[OP] said: ↑

Do you have upgraded front suspension? Did you have the TSB done?
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I had the TSB done and nothing else as far as suspension.

bigyetti · Oct 28, 2009

As others said its up to personal opinion. I had mine done cause i wanted a more truck like ride. before the tsb it rode great just like a caddy. after the the tsb the ride was even better. just my .02

BobJohnson · Oct 29, 2009

Does the tsb that everyone on here is talking about apply to 2010 models? I have a 4cylinder access cab that I picked up day before yesterday and it has 3 leafs.
Bob

kris77 · Oct 29, 2009

Ocean's said: ↑

Here's my New 2008 TRD Offraod 4x4 with only 29 miles! The Dealership said that they, "Lost it in inventory." So, i got a good deal.

I am too debating on whether to get it or not and I intend on pulling a 5200# Mastercraft.

I like the ride now, and It looks pretty high to begin with: I will measure and get some stats.

Was curious

how high a Stock Suspension with/without Tsb was/is?

And how high a TRD SPort is with/without is/was?

And how high a TRD Offroad is with/without is/was?

Hers is Stock 2008 TRd OffRoad.

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that truck looks like it has the TSB...Looks a little higher in the rear...
Maybe its just the way its sitting...

kris77 · Oct 29, 2009

Just for reference....

I had it done. I cant tell a bit of difference in the ride...No worse, no better. It might have looked a little higher when i got it home...after a month of driving it...i cant even tell it was higher...either it settled or i just got used to it...

I do know i can haul a lot more stuff and not worry about bottoming out. I used to make 2 trips to lowes for patio bricks and mortar and 2x4s. now i can put more weight in the bed and not really worry about it bottoming out...

As for having to spend more money to make it look good...its not life or death.
Nobody is going to look at your truck and say, damn, your bed sits higher than the motor, you should have got 5100's and bigger tires...

would i like 5100s...yes would i like a size bigger tire...yes do i need them...no

my advice to anybody who is on the fence...I was in the same boat. I rescheduled 3 times to get mine done. Its worth it. if nothing else, just for the peace of mind....IF you EVER HAVE to haul something heavy, you wont worry...you wont hit a speed bump and feel your truck bottom out and think...Wonder if i would have gotten the extra spring...

Get it done. Its free, toyota screwed up the springs and are trying to fix them. Put back 15 bucks a pay check for 5100s and buy them in a year or so if it bothers you that much.

cobracomander · Oct 29, 2009

BobJohnson said: ↑

Does the tsb that everyone on here is talking about apply to 2010 models? I have a 4cylinder access cab that I picked up day before yesterday and it has 3 leafs.
Bob
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I don't know all the specifics, but I think it will in about a year when they update the TSB for the 2010 models. 08's were updated in September of that year and 09's were in October. Some were getting them done prior in good faith.

topdec · Nov 25, 2009

So... I decided to keep my 3 leafs for now. The truck will be 3 years next week so I'm going to have to live with this decision or spend the money on aftermarket leafs later on.

I guess I'm just happy with stock ride. Even during the 2 years that it took me to finish my basement, I never had a problem hauling anything for that project. Maybe it was because the springs were newer then.

I do appreciate all the responses from you guys. Thanks for posting before and after pix. Your trucks have awesome after-tsb pix.

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