jberry's Retarded Desert Penguin

This is the best "like for like" I have.
First picture is brand new set of F67's on maiden off-road voyage (with single spare).
Second/third picture is brand new 50T on maiden off-road voyage (with two spares). No other difference in spring/shackle/pivot placement. Just a different spring.

The uptravel difference is significant...even when judging from a photo.

 

Probably best to start fresh. You can re-arch the F67's to get more up out of them, but the arch won't last long (6 months tops), especially if you are beating on it. Obviously depends on a number of factors including at what point you set the pack to bump at (negative arch, vs neutral, vs positive arch). I bumped mine so the main leaf was damn near dead nuts flat at full bump...if anything barely negative (see below).

The E30/H70 has a slightly thicker leaf on the upper leafs with some significant arch to handle weight.

 

It prevents coil bind (when coils max out and touch eachother). With my old springs, according to my calipers, I was hitting coil bind right and bump almost the same time. And yes, as you stated, less preload on the collar. Makes the rebound more predictable (for me at least). YRMV but that's why I got longer springs.

Springs are springs. Doesn't matter if it's Eibach on SAWs. You may need to measure your saw's tho to see if you can squeeze in an 18" as they are short bodies.

 

Clears just fine. We have first gens remember

It is a little tricky on placement tho. The plate has to be positioned a certain way so the brake banjo bolt goes into the gap at full lock so it doesn't contact it.

 

It's one more loop but it's also 2" longer in length.
Same rate.

No I don't.

 

Let me put it differently. With my 16" coils and preload set to the ride height I wanted, I mic'd all the gaps in the springs and added them together and it was just less than 8" (shock shaft stroke).
With my 18" springs, doing the same exercise I have more than 8" of spring gap at the exact same ride height.

 

Measure your spring gaps first.
Also as you know, I have a TC kit. Lower shock mounts are slightly different. Easy to draw a line with a laser level tho to see if it will work.

 

Thanks

Cool, stop by for sure.


In other news...did a little prep work on the truck including shortening my bumps. Huge pain in the ass. Took a 12" pipe wrench, 3 foot cheater bar, and a blowtorch to take them apart. Less than 2 year old Fox bumps. Their coating simply sucks by comparison. Wire wheeled the hell out of them and bathed them in anti-seize before putting it all back together.

 

Ehhh, still better than SAW. Bumps are harder to take care of (regardless of manufacture) because they are sleeved inside a can. I coated them with fluid film when I installed them, but still metal on metal contact with my winters and not a dry desert.

Shortening them just shortens the stroke. Same amount of uptravel, but they don't touch the strike pads as soon.

Since I added the extra leaf in the pack last year I've been fighting the rear shock tuning. It's still bucking more than I want, even after multiple bypass revalves and at only 70 psi in the bumps. So shortening them and increasing the nitrogen pressure and see what happens.

 

Shrug. I'm just an internet expert and installed them like I saw everyone else did. I'm sure there is, but Fox coating still leaves a bit to be desired. The bodies are steel.

 

LOL. No apologies necessary. The cans come bare metal. I painted them best I could but the tolerances are pretty tight. I'm sure if it was powder coated, it would be a bitch to get the bumps in the cans. The alternative would be a double pinch can which would allow the can to be spread more. Unfortunately the double pinch cans wouldn't work for my particular application. The lower pinch bolt would contact the tire at flex.
Gives and takes.
They still work great and nobody knows they look like shit when installed. I'm hoping the anti-seize bath on the bodies will work better and last longer. Maybe I'll check them more than once every other year too


Oh and...got uptravel? Tires are still on the ground too.

 

Just gonna leave this here. Sound recommended at full volume.

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