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Old 03-28-2011, 07:40 PM   #1
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So I have a tough decision to make. I am about to redo my suspension/wheel/tire setup. I can redo my 3in suspension RIGHT, Bilstein coilovers, camburg UCA's, new leaf set and new Bilstein rears. Or I can do a 6in Fabtech. My concern with the Fabtech is how it would handle the added weight of my front bumper/winch and I am going to have a rear bumper/sliders sometime this summer.

As far as tires, I am running 33x12.5 Goodyear duratracs now, but I am debating between either 18 or 20in XD Monsters (black) on a 33x12.50 Trail Grappler, KM2 or Toyo MT... Its a daily driver and I will probably keep my 15's and find a decent set of "play tires"

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Old 03-28-2011, 07:42 PM   #2
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stick with 3" IMO
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:44 PM   #3
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What he ^^ said
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:04 PM   #4
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FAGtech sucks. 3" lift or SAS. Don't waste your time or money on a 6" DROP lift. Also, 33's on a 6" is puke.
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Old 03-29-2011, 07:01 PM   #5
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The 3in is looking good right now. Are coilover really as good as people make them out to be? I'm wanting to run the Toytecs 650lb coils and either Light Racing or Camburg UCA's.

Plus, any input on tires?
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Old 03-29-2011, 07:36 PM   #6
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Yes, they are excellent. The best upgrade you can do to the IFS really. Tires? Goodyear MT/r's Kevlar.
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Old 03-29-2011, 07:49 PM   #7
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I have the duratrac AT's now, but when they wear out i am looking into getting something a lil nicer, thinking 18's on 33's and keep my 15in wheel and get a cheap set of used tires (33x10.50 boggers?)

The only off-roading that i really do is playing in mud, occasional trails/logging roads. I will keep the 15's incase i decide to play on anything else...
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:18 PM   #8
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I have the toytec 3" ultimate lift kit and I'm very happy with the coilovers. If you're set on getting 18'or 20" rims I would go with the 18s but 16" or 17" rims would look better imo.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:34 PM   #9
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Thanks, that makes me feel better about dropping that kind of cash into my front suspension.

I'm really liking the idea of 18's or 20's... there is a 2nd gen taco around town that has 33x12.50R18 Mud Grapplers/XD Rockstars and it looks nasty. But I would still like to have a set of decent off-roading tires just to play in...
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dont put boggers on the ifs. cv's hate those things.. 18's look good but you lose alot of tire sizes and they get really expensive. like supratt said the goodyear mtr's with kevlar are amazing tires..
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:28 PM   #12
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Right now I am running the Bilstein 5100's and OME 882 coils up front and AAL with Bilstein 5125's. When I get my tax money back + the money I have saved up already, I want to redo my whole suspension + other preventive maintance. I will also be replacing my CV's (under warranty) and putting in a Spartan front locker. The suspension is my primary concern, then locker/CV's and then wheel/tires.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:31 PM   #13
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I had wanted to do a SAS, but when i started looking at what I would have in it, I backed off. Plus I would rather put that money into a beater and I wouldn't mind getting nicks and dings. Plus if it breaks, oh well, if my DD break then i'm S.O.L.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:08 AM   #14
^^ I no longer have a PreRunner
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I would do Bilstein 5100s with Toytec 620# coils in the front, then do All Pro Off Road 3" leaf springs with Bilstein 5125s in the rear And as far as tires, BFG KM2s FTW! Check out my build
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Right now I am running the Bilstein 5100's and OME 882 coils up front and AAL with Bilstein 5125's. When I get my tax money back + the money I have saved up already, I want to redo my whole suspension + other preventive maintance. I will also be replacing my CV's (under warranty) and putting in a Spartan front locker. The suspension is my primary concern, then locker/CV's and then wheel/tires.
From what I've heard, front lockers tear up the CVs, no personal experience though.
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I like the 5100's, but I'm just wanting to step up to something else... I do love the KM2's, but idk what will be next... the Goodyear Duratracs have been great for everything I have asked them to do

Does it matter if you have manual hubs? Mine is a PreRunner converted 4x4... so I did manuals when I did that
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:20 PM   #17
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From what I've heard, front lockers tear up the CVs, no personal experience though.
Only if you don't understand wheel spin control.


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I like the 5100's, but I'm just wanting to step up to something else... I do love the KM2's, but idk what will be next... the Goodyear Duratracs have been great for everything I have asked them to do

Does it matter if you have manual hubs? Mine is a PreRunner converted 4x4... so I did manuals when I did that
Manual is better, it's stronger. Also, duratracs aren't really that offroad type... Aggressive, yeah, not as aggressive as MT/r's or the KM2s
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[QUOTE=Supra TT;2966053]Only if you don't understand wheel spin control.



What do ya mean?
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Also, is it really worth the extra $$$ to run aftermarket UCA's? I'm just wanting to do it right and cover everything that could probably be replaced
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