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Old 04-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #1
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How Many Miles On Brakes?

I just want to know how many miles others have gotten out of a set of front brakes. I live where there are a LOT of hills, at least half are steep. I do the downshift (auto) on hills to help the brakes. I also, however, am one of those people who actually makes a complete stop at every stopsign. One of my pet peeves.
I got 41,458 miles out of the original set of fronts. But only 28,716mi on set two, 17,630mi on set three, and am about to get a 4th set tomorrow morning AGAIN. This current set only gave me 16596 miles
Why do I get the feeling Toyota is using crappy brake pads?

BTW still have the original rears at 104,000mi.
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I just want to know how many miles others have gotten out of a set of front brakes. I live where there are a LOT of hills, at least half are steep. I do the downshift (auto) on hills to help the brakes. I also, however, am one of those people who actually makes a complete stop at every stopsign. One of my pet peeves.
I got 41,458 miles out of the original set of fronts. But only 28,716mi on set two, 17,630mi on set three, and am about to get a 4th set tomorrow morning AGAIN. This current set only gave me 16596 miles
Why do I get the feeling Toyota is using crappy brake pads?

BTW still have the original rears at 104,000mi.
80K miles on OEM fronts and 180K on what I assume are the stock rears.
I have a 5 speed though.
Autos are just harder on the brakes.
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80K miles on OEM fronts and 180K on what I assume are the stock rears.
I have a 5 speed though.
Autos are just harder on the brakes.
Pads are very inexpensive, and easy to replace.
I don't see a problem, so long as the front brakes work well.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:32 PM   #4
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Yeah I have a disability so I'm unable to do my own. So a front brake job is $300 a pop. I think those pads should last at least as long as the originals did.
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I got about 140,000 out of the front brakes, I replaced them way before they needed to be done because I had the time and money to do it one weekend. I bought the new pads from Toyota so I hope they last as long as the last set. Never done anything to the rear. Its flat where I live, i'm sure that helps.
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I live where there are a LOT of hills, at least half are steep. I do the downshift (auto) on hills to help the brakes. I also, however, am one of those people who actually makes a complete stop at every stopsign.

I think my living situation is EXACTLY as yours. I live in Texas Hill Country, and every single day I have to drive both out and back in through at least 25-30 miles of roadway with constant hills, steep climbs, and steep drops. I have a 2003 DC. Ironically lol I just got my front brakes done last week at 108K miles. I believe I got just under 40K miles from this last set. They actually said the rears weren't too bad, it was only the fronts. They also said the hills takes a toll on those pads and just kills them quickly. Also I had this service (replaced front pads and rotors, and put new brake fluid in) done at AAMCO from a trusted mechanic I know, not done at Toyota. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do since you live in the hills.
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A couple people mention not doing anything to the rear while wondering why the fronts are loosing life quickly.... I would examine the rear brakes and make sure they are adjusted properly. Since they are approx 20% of your braking I think they may need some attention.
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^GREAT point. I failed too mention that my the mechanic also said that the rears did need adjusting, and that was causing the rears to not work at their peak, also in turn placing more of the work load on the front causing them to wear quicker. So they did adjust the rears as well and replaced the entire front. Since they were already there they also adjusted the parking brake cable, no more trying the push the parking brake in to make the light go off!
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Yeah I have a disability so I'm unable to do my own. So a front brake job is $300 a pop.
Sorry, didn't realize that was an issue, most guys on this
forum do their own work, to save money.

$300 is too much for just pads.
New dealership pads are around $80, and it should not take more
than an hours labor for a pro to change them out.
I would shop around for a different shop to do them.
Use good quality pads, though (get them at the dealership).
Pads are very routine and easy to do. Just about any shop
can do American and Japanese front brakes, they all have the
same basic design. Nothing unique about Toyota.
Labor should not be more than $100, it seems to me.

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So a front brake job is $300 a pop.
I paid $300 for new front pads AND new rotors and new brake fluid. If anyone is charging you $300 for just pads, you're getting screwed royally.
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107,xxx on the original pads. The majority of the miles are highway and I like to coast and or use the engine to brake (Manual Trans).
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I'm able to go about 40-50k on my brakes. I don't ride my brakes but I do a lot of stop and go driving. No hills.
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Thanks a lot for all the good input. I also asked one of the mechanics at Toyota that I know, and he said that Toyota has been using a "softer composition" in their pads to minimise rotor wear (lol but I have to get new rotors this time go figure)
Based on what you guys have said, it seems to me my rears aint contributing like they should. After reading here I called about the rears and they are adjusting the rears as well according to the writer so that's cool.
I appreciate the help. Thanks
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I paid $300 for new front pads AND new rotors and new brake fluid. If anyone is charging you $300 for just pads, you're getting screwed royally.
$574 for fronts, rotors and fluid change here what can I do-tried to find an online deal for Toyotas-no luck so at the end I'll hit him up for a last minute discount of some kind. That's a lot of money. Oh well-safety.
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Wow Frank! Sounds like they werent resurfacing the rotors when replacing the pads. Thats all I can think of as to why the pads would wear down so quick.
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$574 for fronts, rotors and fluid change here what can I do-tried to find an online deal for Toyotas-no luck so at the end I'll hit him up for a last minute discount of some kind. That's a lot of money. Oh well-safety.


So why not try taking it elsewhere? It's not like they're doing an engine swap, it's a simple brake job. Take it somewhere else I don't know anyone who would willfully throw away or pay almost $300 more than what you can get elsewhere. That $300 price I paid (New pads, new rotors, new brake fluid, adjust the rear brakes) was also including tax and was just a regular rate so you can get the same price. I just looked online and there is one in the Oakland area that has got good reviews on Google. If that's too far try another location.


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Wow Frank! Sounds like they werent resurfacing the rotors when replacing the pads. Thats all I can think of as to why the pads would wear down so quick.
Yeah Chris you're probably right because I remember they only resurfaced them once-on the third set.

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So why not try taking it elsewhere? It's not like they're doing an engine swap, it's a simple brake job. Take it somewhere else I don't know anyone who would willfully throw away or pay almost $300 more than what you can get elsewhere. That $300 price I paid (New pads, new rotors, new brake fluid, adjust the rear brakes) was also including tax and was just a regular rate so you can get the same price. I just looked online and there is one in the Oakland area that has got good reviews on Google. If that's too far try another location.


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I appreciate what you're saying Dave-thanks. It's just a matter of I have been going to Toyota for service since the truck was new, and I don't want to cut the string. I trust this shop and the Burlingame shop too and I like "genuine Toyota parts" so..otherwise I'd be all up in that job myself like I did when I was younger.
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Dang! glad i am able to do a brake job myself. I just replaced my pads and rotors with:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...582248_0_3773_

and

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...4_172993_2708_

For $97+tax and am happy with the results so far, only have a thousand miles or so on them. Hoping they'll last a bit.

(for those to lazy to click through the link, I used Autozones Duralast Gold pads and rotors.)
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Dang! glad i am able to do a brake job myself. I just replaced my pads and rotors with:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...582248_0_3773_

and

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...4_172993_2708_

For $97+tax and am happy with the results so far, only have a thousand miles or so on them. Hoping they'll last a bit.

(for those to lazy to click through the link, I used Autozones Duralast Gold pads and rotors.)
Was that very difficult to do? I have basic tools and am not a complete moron. I think I'm due for replacing mine this summer.

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw the videos in the DIY thread. It looks simple enough for me to do. I'll add it to my list of things to do this summer.
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