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Old 06-23-2012, 11:35 PM   #1
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Toyota Off-Road: Are we really better?

So I got to thinking: if other truck companies have similar discussion boards for their brand of truck as we do for Tacoma, what other things could be similar? Here's my question:

Are Toyota Tacomas (small lightweight trucks), are our trucks actually *better* at off-roading as other trucks we see and share the road with? Are we better than, say... a Nissan truck? A small Ford truck? A Jeep? Or... are we measuredly different and in what respect? Clever engineers work for a variety of different countries and don't come from a specific ethnicity: in my experience, excellent designers and engineers don't all work for just Toyota. So my question is, to what extent are our Tacomas any better or worse at doing the usual run-of-the-mill things that people put their trucks through???

...or are our trucks actually better than the comparable Nissans, Fords, Dodge's and the like?
 
Old 06-23-2012, 11:39 PM   #2
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Nope. It's IFS...so for being a baja/long traveled truck, potentially. When it comes to the rest, I'd have to say Jeep is the leader. I have experience with wheeling both and you really cannot beat having a solid front axle......Tacomas are really quite expensive....but you pay more and yes have a higher re-sale value....or you pay less for another truck and have a less re-sale value.
 
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Nope. It's IFS...so for being a baja/long traveled truck, potentially. When it comes to the rest, I'd have to say Jeep is the leader. I have experience with wheeling both and you really cannot beat having a solid front axle......Tacomas are really quite expensive....but you pay more and yes have a higher re-sale value....or you pay less for another truck and have a less re-sale value.
id rather be in my truck any day over any of the new jeeps.. now, an older cj, sure, but back then toyota pick ups had solid front axles too so.... idk, i think i might still pick the yota.
 
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id rather be in my truck any day over any of the new jeeps.. now, an older cj, sure, but back then toyota pick ups had solid front axles too so.... idk, i think i might still pick the yota.
I've been plenty happy with my XJ and also like it a lot more than my old tacoma...much more capable and a complete upgrade for me IMO.
 
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Nope. It's IFS...so for being a baja/long traveled truck, potentially. When it comes to the rest, I'd have to say Jeep is the leader. I have experience with wheeling both and you really cannot beat having a solid front axle......Tacomas are really quite expensive....but you pay more and yes have a higher re-sale value....or you pay less for another truck and have a less re-sale value.
Come on, you and I both know you cannot compare a stock solid axle heep to a stock IFS taco. If you are doing straight crawling kind of wheeling then the heep will have the advantage.

However if we are comparing all pick ups across the board, then I believe yes. The Tacoma/Hilux is the top dog when it comes to the off road category. The Tacos have the most clearance, a perfect compact maneuverable size, best options, great suspension set up, amazing 4wd system, and proven and famous reliability and ruggedness. I could care less how much "better" a Cherokee off roads than my taco, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. I'll take my taco any day. Now swap out that IFS with a similar solid axle and the taco will spank that Cherokee.
 
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Come on, you and I both know you cannot compare a stock solid axle heep to a stock IFS taco. If you are doing straight crawling kind of wheeling then the heep will have the advantage.

However if we are comparing all pick ups across the board, then I believe yes. The Tacoma/Hilux is the top dog when it comes to the off road category. The Tacos have the most clearance, a perfect compact maneuverable size, best options, great suspension set up, amazing 4wd system, and proven and famous reliability and ruggedness. I could care less how much "better" a Cherokee off roads than my taco, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. I'll take my taco any day. Now swap out that IFS with a similar solid axle and the taco will spank that Cherokee.
No. My XJ can and has taken me places your Tacoma wouldn't even be able dream of. I don't quite think you understand the way suspension works either...and the differences between IFS and SFA and what their uses of where they shine are. Also, I disagree about tacomas having maneuverability...my 99 sucked at turns and I found it extremely hard to even park at times because of that.

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I thought the same damn thing when I read the title...lol Mentally, I said, "Ok, which one of those drunks ventured over here and made a thread"


But yes Adam, TOR is better.
 
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No. My XJ can and has taken me places your Tacoma wouldn't even be able dream of. I don't quite think you understand the way suspension works either...and the differences between IFS and SFA and what their uses of where they shine are. Also, I disagree about tacomas having maneuverability...my 99 sucked at turns and I found it extremely hard to even park at times because of that.
Really connor, really? Are we pulling this shit out? " I don't quite think you understand the way suspension works either...and the differences between IFS and SFA and what their uses of where they shine are"

I'm also not trying to turn this into a pissing one upping match where you tell us all how much better your stupid jeep is than my truck.

I just said you can't compare a solid axle jeep to an IFS taco...meaning they are not on the same level. Like i said the jeep has the advantage. I'm not quite sure where that shows that I don't know how suspension works or how it is necessary for you to reaffirm that in the last month and a half you have owned the thing you taken your heep places my truck has never DREAMED of.

I'm also sorry you don't know how to park a mini truck, I have fit into compact car spaces in parking garages and usually make it in and out of parking spaces with one turn. I find no issue with the turning except when flipping a bitch in a neighborhood.
 
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I think Tacos are better at doing everything well. You can daily drive it and wheel it on weekends. For full hardcore offroad use nothing beats a Jeep but I wouldn't want to live with one everyday unless it was a fully loaded Grand Cherokee. We are talking about factory vehicles here not something you or a shop can make.

The Toyota owners that think they own the best choice of vehicle on the planet are just fanboys.
 
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Really connor, really? Are we pulling this shit out? " I don't quite think you understand the way suspension works either...and the differences between IFS and SFA and what their uses of where they shine are"

I'm also not trying to turn this into a pissing one upping match where you tell us all how much better your stupid jeep is than my truck.

I just said you can't compare a solid axle jeep to an IFS taco...meaning they are not on the same level. Like i said the jeep has the advantage. I'm not quite sure where that shows that I don't know how suspension works or how it is necessary for you to reaffirm that in the last month and a half you have owned the thing you taken your heep places my truck has never DREAMED of.

I'm also sorry you don't know how to park a mini truck, I have fit into compact car spaces in parking garages and usually make it in and out of parking spaces with one turn. I find no issue with the turning except when flipping a bitch in a neighborhood.
Really.
 
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Really connor, really? Are we pulling this shit out? " I don't quite think you understand the way suspension works either...and the differences between IFS and SFA and what their uses of where they shine are"

I'm also not trying to turn this into a pissing one upping match where you tell us all how much better your stupid jeep is than my truck.

I just said you can't compare a solid axle jeep to an IFS taco...meaning they are not on the same level. Like i said the jeep has the advantage. I'm not quite sure where that shows that I don't know how suspension works or how it is necessary for you to reaffirm that in the last month and a half you have owned the thing you taken your heep places my truck has never DREAMED of.

I'm also sorry you don't know how to park a mini truck, I have fit into compact car spaces in parking garages and usually make it in and out of parking spaces with one turn. I find no issue with the turning except when flipping a bitch in a neighborhood.
 
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For once, in a god dam blue moon, can we have a thread with a conversation without stupid shit like this popping up in it? No i'm not mad at all, and you posting that stupid picture adds nothing of value to this thread other than to give you a little smirk and give you the illusion that lets you think that you are clever and have just done something really funny.
 
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For once, in a god dam blue moon, can we have a thread with a conversation without stupid shit like this popping up in it? No i'm not mad at all, and you posting that stupid picture adds nothing of value to this thread other than to give you a little smirk and give you the illusion that lets you think that you are clever and have just done something really funny.


^^^^You really should because you are clearly a mad fanboy.
 
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yes. clearly I am a mad fan boy. Go ahead and call me whatever you please. But believe me I have no unwarranted notions on the ability of my truck.
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