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Old 06-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #1
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SAS TIME

im going to do a sas, and am in the search of a front axle, reccomendations? id like a used one with a locker, so what axles from what cars can i use? ill be using a tg kit, and with labor and the kit im already spending a lot so i need to know what to look for to save as much as possible
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If you can find an 1985 or older toyota solid front axle and rebuild it. It may be the cheapest way to go. Plus its one of the strongest axles toyota made.
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will a 1990 4runner axle fit? those seem to be a lot easier to find
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will a 1990 4runner axle fit? those seem to be a lot easier to find
I thought that 1990 4runners were ifs? I could be wrong though...
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:57 PM   #5
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OP. Research research research research. draw up a plan. Scrap it. Research research research.

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I thought that 1990 4runners were ifs? I could be wrong though...
2nd gen 4runna = IFS IIRC
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I thought that 1990 4runners were ifs? I could be wrong though...
thats what i was thinking. so my guess is hes already got one from a pu. i havent heard back from him so once i do it should work right?
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:07 PM   #7
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dana 44...

sounds like you need to do more research.
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thats what i was thinking. so my guess is hes already got one from a pu. i havent heard back from him so once i do it should work right?
It's a SAS....It will NOT be a bolt in dealio...this process will require a fair amount of fab work, regardless of buying TG kits and a yota axle.....
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dana 44...

sounds like you need to do more research.
I'd suggest a dana 44 as well, but dependent on what tires you're wanting to run.

OP - what gears and tire size are you wanting to do?

And I think he hasn't done as much research as well.
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It's a SAS....It will NOT be a bolt in dealio...this process will require a fair amount of fab work, regardless of buying TG kits and a yota axle.....
toyota axle is more work generally because you have to mess with the t case.
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toyota axle is more work generally because you have to mess with the t case.
I don't have much experience with doing an SAS on a yota or with yota axles. I like the danas a lot tho...eventually MIGHT swap my d30 out for a d44.
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I don't have much experience with doing an SAS on a yota or with yota axles. I like the danas a lot tho...eventually MIGHT swap my d30 out for a d44.
The toyota axle is nice because it's narrow and strong, but if the OP is looking to rock crawl some width is nice so the D44 or 60 is nice.
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The toyota axle is nice because it's narrow and strong, but if the OP is looking to rock crawl some width is nice so the D44 or 60 is nice.
D60 is over-doing it IMO unless running like 37-40+ on tires.

D44 with chromoly axle shafts will be plenty strong
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D60 is over-doing it IMO unless running like 37-40+ on tires.

D44 with chromoly axle shafts will be plenty strong
yup, and the 44 has more clearance when running smaller tires. I wouldn't go over 39's on the D44 though and that's with the cromoly.
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1985 and lower were SFA on the 4runners. Same as the pickups.

I always thought toyota axles were way easier to swap. Maybe thats for the pre-tacoma trucks.
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1985 and lower were SFA on the 4runners. Same as the pickups.

I always thought toyota axles were way easier to swap. Maybe thats for the pre-tacoma trucks.
yup. The pre taco's are generally a way easier and cheaper platform to start from for a SAS. I personally wouldn't bother with a tacoma but that's just me.
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yup. The pre taco's are generally a way easier and cheaper platform to start from for a SAS. I personally wouldn't bother with a tacoma but that's just me.
Same. Id rather swap a 3.4 into an older pickup or runner
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Same. Id rather swap a 3.4 into an older pickup or runner
or a 350

jk the 3.4 is awesome, I'd do the same.
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thats what i was thinking. so my guess is hes already got one from a pu. i havent heard back from him so once i do it should work right?
From 1986 on, both 4runners and pickups had IFS front ends, not solid axles. If you're going all Toyota, you'll need the front axle housing (and guts) from a 79-85.
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If you do a full toyota swap there's a lot of odds and ends, but it's well worth it in my opinion. When I did mine I went ahead geared the case, went through the axle and what not. A 44 swap is a little easier since you don't have to swap the case or flip the axle, but there are still some odds and ends to be had.

Good luck with you swap and like mentioned already, do you home work, trash your first plan and start over
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