Joined: Apr 2011, #55722
I always figured older to be better in most cases, and the old yota pickups are legendary. In my experience with old trucks vs new, I found out with old ford trucks vs new ford trucks. I've got a 67 F250 high boy, and a 78 bronco, and you can tell by the frame construction, engine and transmission construction, drivetrain construction, that these old rigs were built to last, and last a very long time. You see, there was a time not so long ago before the automotive giants became greedy and wanted more money, that they spent hours building and perfecting quality cars that would last their owners many years when properly maintained. The shift for ford trucks really took place in the 80s and 90s as tighter fuel consumption laws came into effect, so ford had to take away from the build quality of the trucks to make them lighter and more efficient. In the 80s, they drilled big holes in the frames, and did away with the solid front axle in half tons and replaced it with a quirky i-beam suspension that was much more suited for paved roads then heavy off road work use. In a few years, these clunky frames would rust, and due to them being already weakened with the holes drilled in them, they would literally pull in half. I've heard stories of the rear frames in 80s fords pulling out completely when they are hitched to a heavy load.
Things got a little better in the 90s for the ford trucks, they got beautiful styling (my second favorite ford bodystyle at that) but still had many engine and transmission problems to deal with that plagued this era. It was also then in the late 80s in 90s, the big three came under the assumption that the general consumer would just buy whatever they made and wouldn't bat an eyelash, so customer loyalty and quality went out the window pretty much. Now you had cars that would run fine for about 5 years tops, then would be so beaten down and worn out, the owner had no choice to but get a new one. And this was the reason Toyota, Honda, and Nissan mainly got so popular on domestic shores was because they did the opposite of what the big three was doing at the time, they built something the consumer wanted, and something that would last many years with little maintenance. Foreign import popularity exploded here in the US in the 80s and 90s, face it, Japan was building affordable, reliable, and super fuel efficient vehicles that would last 30 years easily while the domestic fleet was churning out cars that would need to be scrapped within 5 to 10 years. Like it or not, and none of the domestic purists will ever agree with this, but it was the big three's fault that Toyota, Honda, and Nissan became so popular in the US, they brought it on themselves with quality control issues and corporate greed. They believed that the consumers were stupid and would still continue to buy junk vehicles, and they were wrong and it cost them greatly. Had they not made such obscure decisions, it is very possible that the Japanese auto invasion never would have happened, and cars like Toyota, Honda, and Nissan would just be a side thought in our minds today. I just hope the same fate does not happen with Toyota, Honda, or Nissan anytime soon, but it certainly could. All 3 are multi billion dollar corporations now, and could surely be befuddled by greed in the future, let's just hope it never happens.