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Old 05-30-2013, 01:11 PM   #21
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I have the selectable in the rear much better than the auto in the rear. I run an Aussie in the front you cant feel it on the street due to the ADD disconnect. Off-road it works great I have yet to run into an issue with driving. I haven't run into any steering issues or extra breakage I haven't really changed my wheeling style I don't beat on it but I also don't baby it. As long as you don't do something stupid like put 37's on it then revlimiter assault a ledge.

If I ever make it to another TW wheeling trip you can take mine for a spin to test it out.
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What about eaton lockers?
the Detroit posi's or no slips suck. The wear out and often stop working right when you hit a tough spot only to suddenly lock up randomly.

Their elockers are even worse, they are known for freezing up.

They do make good autolockers though.
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I have the selectable in the rear much better than the auto in the rear. I run an Aussie in the front you cant feel it on the street due to the ADD disconnect. Off-road it works great I have yet to run into an issue with driving. I haven't run into any steering issues or extra breakage I haven't really changed my wheeling style I don't beat on it but I also don't baby it. As long as you don't do something stupid like put 37's on it then revlimiter assault a ledge.

If I ever make it to another TW wheeling trip you can take mine for a spin to test it out.
I am running an Aussie up front myself. I got it for free, so I am not complaining at all, and if I had the money I would have put an ARB in. How well does that Aussie work? Have you used it a lot?
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I am running an Aussie up front myself. I got it for free, so I am not complaining at all, and if I had the money I would have put an ARB in. How well does that Aussie work? Have you used it a lot?
iv used it for over a year now and I have had no problems with it. Usually go somewhere with my club once a month except this winter when I was out of the country. It hasn't slipped or jammed, turns rather well offroad if your stationary its a little tougher to turn but not by much. Maybe its just me but I have yet to get in a tight spot on a trail where I thought I absolutely needed a selectable it would be nice but im on a budget. I'm fine with the 6 point turn instead of a 4 point turn
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I decided to resurrect this thread, because I have 2 questions for some folks that responded to this thread.

1.) BamaToy - Since you are actually using an autolocker/lunchbox locker in the front currently, how is working for you ?

2.) For those saying the autolocker adds more stress to the CVs. I'm looking for an explanation on how it adds more stress than an ARB ? I'm contemplating this option and that statement isn't making any sense. Unless your assuming situations of slamming on the gas and engagement is very abrubtly in and out, like if you're mud bogging and really romping on the gas ??? But what about slower speed engagement like when mild rockcrawling ?
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I decided to resurrect this thread, because I have 2 questions for some folks that responded to this thread.

1.) BamaToy - Since you are actually using an autolocker/lunchbox locker in the front currently, how is working for you ?

2.) For those saying the autolocker adds more stress to the CVs. I'm looking for an explanation on how it adds more stress than an ARB ? I'm contemplating this option and that statement isn't making any sense. Unless your assuming situations of slamming on the gas and engagement is very abrubtly in and out, like if you're mud bogging and really romping on the gas ??? But what about slower speed engagement like when mild rockcrawling ?
edit: I know quite a few guys running detroits and truetracs up front in old Silverados and F-150s with a good bit of mileage on them, I don't necessarily agree with the unreliable statements. Detroit has been around a loooong time.
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edit: I know quite a few guys running detroits and truetracs up front in old Silverados and F-150s with a good bit of mileage on them, I don't necessarily agree with the unreliable statements. Detroit has been around a loooong time.
I don't think it has anything to do with reliability with the lockers....

It's the longevity and wear & tear on your drive components.

You want to know why? A selectable locker (like ARB) is an OPEN DIFF when the locker is NOT engaged. Everything works like STOCK.....working as designed. You engage it only when you need it.

A non-selectable locker is ALWAYS engaged. The overall function of the differential works completely different, as the mechanisms are trying to keep the wheels locked up at all times. Things build up torque, things have to 'release' pressure. All this puts un-natural wear/tear on the drive train.
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edit: I know quite a few guys running detroits and truetracs up front in old Silverados and F-150s with a good bit of mileage on them, I don't necessarily agree with the unreliable statements. Detroit has been around a loooong time.
Its only their Truetracs and their Elocker that are unreliable. Their normal lunchboxes are awesome. Google Eaton Elocker problems, Hell they had to stop selling them for awhile while they fixed the design.
Heres two videos of the only two people I know who ran True Trac's both have spools now. Pretty convenient the failed on film the same day. The first has his in the front diff. The design is based on wearing the clutch pack till it dies, it will work great for how long
See 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw7avo3legc

Ranger runs his in the Rear. Watch the passenger rear tire at 30 seconds and on. It has a TrueTrac looks pretty unreliable to me.

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The first has his in the front diff. The design is based on wearing the clutch pack till it dies, it will work great for how long
TruTracs don't use a clutch pack, they use helical gears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXvH3T8Bsg
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This is simple.

Save your money..every penny..Get ARBs

Being in college is no excuse. Im in College. Look at my truck. The key to it is WORK YOUR ASS off in the summer. Work hard..Play hard. I also put a lot of money toward my truck. I don't go out and spend 30 bucks twice a week on beer/alchohol or any other drugs or whatever. Eat only what you need to get by, only splurg on a super nice meal once a week.

If you want ARBs. Only take a a while to save up for them. A year or so at the most. It'll be my next big mod..after the one im currently going to do.
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2.) For those saying the autolocker adds more stress to the CVs. I'm looking for an explanation on how it adds more stress than an ARB ? I'm contemplating this option and that statement isn't making any sense. Unless your assuming situations of slamming on the gas and engagement is very abrubtly in and out, like if you're mud bogging and really romping on the gas ??? But what about slower speed engagement like when mild rockcrawling ?
With a lunchbox When the ADD disconnects on the front end your driver side CVshaft will still spin thus your front driveshaft as well. (Jeeps and other vehicles have a spinning front Driveshaft from the factory doesn't cause any major wear) This extra spinning could result in a bit more wear like Ujoints wearing faster and guts in your diff. Offroad with 4WD engaged it will put extra strain on the front end with twice the traction being applied. However so will an ARB when engaged. In my experience anytime the extra traction resulted in a CV going boom I would have had an ARB Locked anyway.

Now where the Lunchboxes are not so great is the rear. The front has the Disconnect so the locker isn't ratcheting or being worn during daily driving. When you have it always under load and being ratcheted the locker will wear. Generally speaking the locker itself is the piece that takes all the force of the "unloading" why you hear the clicking or ratcheting. After a few years of street use the Pins on the inside of a street driven locker will need to be replaced.
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This is simple.

Save your money..every penny..Get ARBs

Being in college is no excuse. Im in College. Look at my truck. The key to it is WORK YOUR ASS off in the summer. Work hard..Play hard. I also put a lot of money toward my truck. I don't go out and spend 30 bucks twice a week on beer/alchohol or any other drugs or whatever. Eat only what you need to get by, only splurg on a super nice meal once a week.

If you want ARBs. Only take a a while to save up for them. A year or so at the most. It'll be my next big mod..after the one im currently going to do.
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the power trax noslip is a phenominal locker with pretty good road manners and a great price point. its rugged as hell too. i have beat the crap outta that thing and it still locks right up. i'd say the only down side is that it increases the internal play between the axles but other than that its great. just gotta change around your driving style a little bit
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the power trax noslip is a phenominal locker with pretty good road manners and a great price point. its rugged as hell too. i have beat the crap outta that thing and it still locks right up. i'd say the only down side is that it increases the internal play between the axles but other than that its great. just gotta change around your driving style a little bit
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