Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Discussion > 1st Gen. Tacomas

Notices

Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-19-2014, 03:18 PM   #1
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.

quick question, is it possible to shorten the overall length of a 1st generation extracab tacoma by relocating the leaf spring shackles to right behind the rear shocks? I may get a used tacoma in the long run and will convert it to a flatbed when doing this project

Not shortening the wheelbase, just getting rid of the rear overhang past the rear shocks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:25 PM   #2
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
You can cut the frame right after the rear shackle mounts. To move them forward yes,. you'd mess with things like differential placement, driveshaft length and stuff though
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:30 PM   #3
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
What you're saying is that moving the rear shackle mounts forward to just behind the rear shocks will cause complications? I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase. Its getting rid of the rear overhang where the spare tire is to be placed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #4
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoiako916 View Post
What you're saying is that moving the rear shackle mounts forward to just behind the rear shocks will cause complications? I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase. Its getting rid of the rear overhang where the spare tire is to be placed.
Im pretty sure you could chop off everything after the shackle mounts on the frame, but you can't just move them forward, the leaf springs are a set length that you can't change, and they need the right shackle angle to have a nice ride
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:39 PM   #5
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
What will you have to do in order to move the leaf spring shackle mounts to just behind the rear shocks? Do i need to get new rear leaf springs?

I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase though.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:50 PM   #6
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoiako916 View Post
What will you have to do in order to move the leaf spring shackle mounts to just behind the rear shocks? Do i need to get new rear leaf springs?

I am not trying to shorten the wheelbase though.
How far forward are we talking?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 03:52 PM   #7
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
Moving the rear leaf spring shackles to just right behind where the current stock rear shocks are.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 04:04 PM   #9
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
This is a second generation picture, my plan is to relocate the rear leaf springs just behind the stock rear shocks:
Attached Thumbnails
Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.-image_1364574176076223.jpg  
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 04:23 PM   #10
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoiako916 View Post
This is a second generation picture, my plan is to relocate the rear leaf springs just behind the stock rear shocks:
That's not possible. You'd have to remove the leaf springs and run a three link setup or something
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 04:35 PM   #11
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
Can you just get new rear leaf springs and shackles instead which are custom to that setup?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 04:37 PM   #12
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoiako916 View Post
Can you just get new rear leaf springs and shackles instead which are custom to that setup?
You could ask a leaf spring shop, but I doubt they make leafs that short on one side
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 04:55 PM   #13
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
It will be on both sides.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 05:13 PM   #14
Salesman by trade, Gentleman by habit
Mr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shedMr. Biscuits is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Mr. Biscuits's Avatar
Name: Brennen J
Joined: May 2012, #78316
Location: Bakersfield
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,377
Mr. Biscuits's Tacoma Gallery
I would quit while you're ahead. first off, we got it: you're NOT TRYING TO SHORTEN THE WHEELBASE. Chopping the extraneous bed and rear fender isn't too crazy, a lot of guys that like to rock crawl have done it to get less rear drag when going over large obstacles. Its called bobbing the bed or a bed bob. you can cut everything off the rear from the rear shackle back.

You CAN technically do what you're trying to do but it would cost way too much money and time to find correct length leafs with accurate rates and all that. I know the 95-97 Tacomas had slightly shorter leaf springs, if you're not going to let this go, look into how much shorter they are and how they altered the mounting points to reflect that change. maybe its just the little push forward you're looking for.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 05:25 PM   #15
Senior Member
tan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtan4x4 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tan4x4's Avatar
Name: Rick
Joined: Nov 2011, #67982
Location: Folsom, CA
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,422
tan4x4's Tacoma Gallery
What about putting a 4-runner axle back there, which does not use leaf springs?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 07:29 PM   #16
Neighborhood Know-it-all
Box Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shedBox Rocket is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Box Rocket's Avatar
Name: Adam
Joined: Mar 2010, #32389
Location: Syracuse, Utah
Age: 41
Gender: Guy
Posts: 5,069
Box Rocket's Tacoma Gallery
What your asking is NOT possible while still using leaf springs. Even if you could get a spring shop to build you custom leaf springs to fit like your describing, the ride and suspension characteristics would make the truck undriveable.

The only realistic way of accomplishing that would be to eliminate the leaf springs altogether and setting up a 4-link rear suspension with coil springs like the 4Runner. That way everything behind the springs could be removed.

I will say.....no disrespect intended.....that the fact that you are asking this question tells me that you have a very limited understanding of how suspension works. I would leave things as they are on your truck and just get some time behind the wheel while you understand how it all works.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 08:02 PM   #17
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
Like these?:
Attached Thumbnails
Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.-imag0636.jpg   Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.-imag0637.jpg  
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 08:13 PM   #18
Senior Member
Styx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shedStyx586 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Styx586's Avatar
Navy: Petty Officer
Name: Terrance
Joined: Apr 2011, #54822
Location: Corona, Ca
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Posts: 938
Styx586's Tacoma Gallery
I guess my question is why? What are you trying to accomplish?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 08:22 PM   #19
Senior Member
Pinoiako916 is on a distinguished road
Name: Al
Joined: Sep 2010, #42749
Location: Roseville,ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 131
Pinoiako916's Tacoma Gallery
eliminate the entire rear overhang behind the rear shocks by using a 4-link rear suspension with coil springs
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2014, 08:30 PM   #20
Senior Member
tacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shedtacomataco2 is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
tacomataco2's Avatar
Joined: Nov 2012, #91944
Location: Eastham Mass
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,711
tacomataco2's Tacoma Gallery
Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles to shorten overall length.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinoiako916 View Post
eliminate the entire rear overhang behind the rear shocks by using a 4-link rear suspension with coil springs
Then do that?
Also like box rocket said, it doesn't appear you are quite up to the task of linking the rear so think carefully before you chop apart the rear suspension. There's a lot of knowledge involved with it
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Relocating the Leaf Spring Shackles Pinoiako916 2nd Gen. Tacomas 0 01-19-2014 02:19 PM
U-Bolts and leaf spring shackles OneTrack236 Buy / Sell / Trade 1 05-17-2012 10:18 AM
WTB '03 OEM leaf spring shackles 4x4 caginn Buy / Sell / Trade 1 05-06-2012 06:41 PM
Rear leaf spring shackles caginn Suspension 0 05-04-2012 11:39 AM
Leaf Spring Length Questions.... Kuneff 1st Gen. Tacomas 9 08-23-2010 01:17 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.