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Drum replacement = pad replacement?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Polar6667, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Jul 10, 2014 at 7:06 PM
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    Polar6667

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    I've looked all over these threads so if this has been answered/discussed, my apologies. Please point me in the right direction.

    Here's my problem/question: My 2000 Taco has had a pulsing in the seat, not steering wheel when braking, and has been diagnosed as warped drums. With 170k miles on the truck and these being the stock drums it stands to reason. A couple years ago I had blown axle seals, grease, etc... The rear brakes were done at that time and the drums were turned (hence the warping), new pads were installed at that time.

    I purchased a pair of Centric drums and replaced them yesterday only to have the vibrations to be worse than the warped drums.. Did I get a bad pair of drums? Is it necessary to replace the pads due to the old drums being warped? Do Pads conform to warped drums thus vibrating worse on a smooth surface?

    Thanks for any help..
     
  2. Jul 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM
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    I had a terrible past history with other than oem drums. Exactly as you described. I have always heard to replace shoes with new drums. Not an expert here though. GL
     
  3. Jul 10, 2014 at 9:00 PM
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    "Do Pads conform to warped drums thus vibrating worse on a smooth surface?"

    Yes they will. Replace the pads, should be a world of difference.
     
  4. Jul 11, 2014 at 6:09 AM
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    I'd get new shoes in there ASAP before they wear the drums unevenly to match them being worn unevenly. I'm also a believer in changing pads/shoes when you change rotors/drums.
     
  5. Jul 11, 2014 at 7:39 AM
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    I've always been of the understanding that shoes/pads will wear into the drum. I've replaced rotors without replacing pads and drums without replacing shoes and never had a problem... Until the shoe wore out and fawked up an almost new drum with 20-30k on it. I was too broke when I replaced drums for even the cheap $20 shoes. :eek:

    Edit: if the shoe has huge noticeable grooves replace it. If looks pretty smooth I would run it in a bind.
     
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  6. Jul 11, 2014 at 8:54 AM
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    The shoes are so cheap,why take a chance. Have a feeling it's the drums though.
     
  7. Jul 11, 2014 at 11:11 AM
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    That's pretty much what I thought. I had changed the drums back to the old ones till I knew more. I'll get some pads and do the whole job. A shame since there is so much left on the pads but that's the miser in me.

    Thanks for the responses!
     
  8. Jul 11, 2014 at 11:16 AM
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    Yeah it can be painful... Get some that have a lifetime warranty on them. No they're not the best pads but they stop me just fine and you can just replace whenever. I roll on Oreilly brakebest select currently, just replaced them a few months ago since I warped my rotors. It eases the pain of replacing stuff with lots of life left when it only costs you time :)
     
  9. Jul 13, 2014 at 9:36 AM
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    New drums, new shoes. If the surfaces are not mating correctly you will develop hot spots. This warps drums and glazes shoes. Same with pads and rotors.
     
  10. Jul 25, 2014 at 8:58 PM
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    Doing the job this week. I'll report back on my success or failure. 1st time doing drum brakes. Wish me luck...
     
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    All done and I'm surprised at how easy it was! The pulsing is all gone and it's smooth sailing. Thanks again for the replies!
     
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    What drums did you go with? Looking replace mine also but price range is 30 to 150 so im unsure of the quality and the description fails to describe them
     
  13. Aug 7, 2014 at 8:02 AM
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    Sorry for the late reply, not getting the notices... I got Centric drums and shoes from rock auto. $31 for the drums (ea) and $17 for the shoes (as a set).

    However the problem continued soon after my last post. The drums, new ones, were out of round... Waiting for the replacements to arrive. Hope my new shoes weren't damaged by the crap drums. Only drove for a couple days..
     
  14. Aug 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM
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    I wouldn't be too concerned about the shoes. If you only spent $17 for the set, then they are also crap. I was having problems with grabbing brakes in the rear, and replace the shoes with OEM ($110). Now, they are smooth as silk.
     
  15. Aug 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM
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    Huh, I thought centric was pretty good and that rock auto.com just had great prices. I didn't buy the cheapest ones.
     
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    Oem drums only on mine after going threw same problems you are having. Hope your new ones hold up.lol
     
  17. Aug 8, 2014 at 7:31 PM
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    Damn.... Me too.
     

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