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Old 05-18-2009, 05:01 PM   #1
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wheel/lug nut question

so today i was at the tire store getting my tires balanced and the guy working there said that the lug nuts i had on my wheels were the wrong ones. so i wanted to ask the pros, are these the correct or incorrect lug nuts for my wheels. the guy said i needed the lug nuts that had the sleeve/shank and washer on it, not the ones that i had. the wheel size are 15x7.

here is a picture of my wheel


here are my lug nuts


or do i need lug nuts like these(overall length 1.47")


or do i need these(overall length 1.75")
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:13 PM   #2
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I thought alloys used angled nuts (like what have) and steel wheels used flat nuts.

I think you're alright, but thats going by whats above.
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Alloys use the lugs on the bottom.
These:
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:25 PM   #4
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my own thoughts.....it looks like to me(i may be wrong) that if i do not use the one with the sleeve/shank that goes between the wheel stud and the wheel, that it would have some play in it. i am looking on ebay and they have some that are a shy less than 1.5" and some that are 1.75", which ones should i use? any suggestions are welcomed.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:27 PM   #5
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my own thoughts.....it looks like to me(i may be wrong) that if i do not use the one with the sleeve/shank that goes between the wheel stud and the wheel, that it would have some play in it. i am looking on ebay and they have some that are a shy less than 1.5" and some that are 1.75", which ones should i use? any suggestions are welcomed.
Steel wheels have an angle in the lug recess for the lugs with the angle. The ones for the aloy wheels will center the wheel on the lugs.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:29 PM   #6
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would it be helpful to provide a pic of the bolt hole in my wheel?
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:30 PM   #7
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would it be helpful to provide a pic of the bolt hole in my wheel?
I know what it looks like. Being as you have been useing the wrong lug nuts, the the holes may have worn accordingly.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:35 PM   #8
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The reason between the different lugs, and use in wheels, If you use lugs for a steel wheel on an aluminum wheel, it will stress the wheel possibly leading to cracks and wheel failure. An aluminum wheel needs the lugs with the flat surface so as to distribute the load (of the torqued lugs) over more area.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:37 PM   #9
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I think David Tarantino would be more of an authority on this topic..
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I think David Tarantino would be more of an authority on this topic..
so should i keep what i got or get some new ones. could these wrong nuts cause me wheels to wobble around?
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Get some new ones, if it doesnt center the wheel right you could get some wobble
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does it matter what length. the ones i have seen on ebay are either about 1.5" long or 1.75" long?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:35 PM   #13
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does it matter what length. the ones i have seen on ebay are either about 1.5" long or 1.75" long?
Length is important, but I cant remember how you go about finding the right size..
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Length is important, but I cant remember how you go about finding the right size..
that's not good
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The Toyota part number for the OEM lug nuts on the 15X7 alloy 6-lug wheels (as illustrated in your photo) is:

90942-01077

I can't confirm which length this is, because it's not one of the ones I had to consider when I went looking for OEM shank-style lug nuts a few years ago. I suspect you need the longer one.

My best advice is to go to a dealership parts department, have them pull out the correct lug nut for your wheels, and measure it. Be sure to confirm the correct part number.

The problem is that Toyota charges something on the order of $5 each for these lug nuts. It's a lot cheaper if you can find them elsewhere. I got mine off eBay (new; dealer take-offs) for less than 50% of MSRP.

Beware of imported knock-offs (including those from Canadian vendors). A couple of years ago there were problems with cheap knock-offs of poor quality / reliability.
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The Toyota part number for the OEM lug nuts on the 15X7 alloy 6-lug wheels (as illustrated in your photo) is:

90942-01077

I can't confirm which length this is, because it's not one of the ones I had to consider when I went looking for OEM shank-style lug nuts a few years ago. I suspect you need the longer one.

My best advice is to go to a dealership parts department, have them pull out the correct lug nut for your wheels, and measure it. Be sure to confirm the correct part number.

The problem is that Toyota charges something on the order of $5 each for these lug nuts. It's a lot cheaper if you can find them elsewhere. I got mine off eBay (new; dealer take-offs) for less than 50% of MSRP.

Beware of imported knock-offs (including those from Canadian vendors). A couple of years ago there were problems with cheap knock-offs of poor quality / reliability.
i was going to do that but.....i called my local stealership and the guy looked up what i was needing, but that had none is stock. that said they could order one but it would be 7.50 per nut, wtf? i then asked him if the lug he was looking at one the computer had some measurements that he could give me as a reference. he first asked what i wanted them for so i told him i was looking at some on the web and just needed the measurements to make sure i was getting the right part. then the shit hit the fan, this parts guy chewed me out because apparently i needed to buy parts from them instead of buying them from some joe on the web. i told him that if they wouldn't try rippin people a new one, then people would buy from them. i was pissed to say the least. i gave him a f*ck you very much and hung up the phone, i'm still hot about it, i might go over there tomorrow and give him a lesson in marine corps hand-to-hand combat. anyhow, i will never mess with the parts people at my locak stealership again and ordered some lugs from a on ebay dude who took them off a 2001 tacoma with alloys. got them for like 35 bucks. if they don't work, it want be the first time i have threw money away. sorry about the lengthy post, but i had to vent.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:11 PM   #17
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