95-2K rust help from toyota

Norton Guy · 06-05-2009, 05:27 AM

This is my 5th truck so they had me anyway. The Japanese manufacturers always go the extra mile IMHO. I worked for Honda for years and they generally didn't pinch pennies when it came to warranty work but then again it always depends on the service manager etc.

snoope · 06-13-2009, 07:01 PM

Hello,

I just got my '02 back from my dealer with a complete "new frame",plus other goodies priced in.......with only 47k on it I was surprised when they told me it would "Make the Frame " test; failed out near my passenger rear spring hanger......just starting BUT they have treated me right for 30+ years and 13+ Toyota's....

The best part;watching these "techs" treat my '02 like brand new( service called me when they pulled the cab and bed off,plus updated when the rebuild started).....new front suspension ( ball joint recall also) ,lower A's plus bushings,new rear suspension complete ,brake lines plus E-brake cables and they matched my "Net shock" prices ( only thing not covered in the "swap"),new anti-freeze;including the block, R&R A/C , cleaned and re-oiled my K&N filter and a new lock for the spare..........."Devil in the details"............PLUS gave me a Toyota for those 11 days,yes it was a Prius BUT Now Mom wants one ( 54 mpg avg

)

Snoope back quiet

oldtacomaguy · 06-14-2009, 10:15 AM

That's great, now you have a "new" 02 just waiting to go another 300,000 miles!

snoope · 06-14-2009, 10:41 AM

oldtacomaguy,

that is exactly what will happen......I have always traded the trucks out faithfully BUT now that Toyo has recreated this one.....200k here we come.......Moms Camry just rolled 148k and she got the "New Bug" with that Prius loaner....so we are "punishing" the dealer for a "weekend trip" once the Solar roof '10's come in

.....the way I got it figured,the $$$ we save on gas mpgs with that lets me "dress" the Taco

.....

Snoope back quiet

STLharry · 06-14-2009, 09:09 PM

Sweet. I have a 96. Barely any rust, an i am hoping it doesnt fail when i bring it in because i would only get around 7000-8000 for it, which won't buy me a newer 1st gen (really dont like 2nd gens). I also like the 96 face better and i have done a fail amount of mods. i wouldnt mind a 6 cylinder, but im happy now.

anyone know if theres an option for a frame swap no charge?

tigerfan00 · 06-14-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STLharry

Sweet. I have a 96. Barely any rust, an i am hoping it doesnt fail when i bring it in because i would only get around 7000-8000 for it, which won't buy me a newer 1st gen (really dont like 2nd gens). I also like the 96 face better and i have done a fail amount of mods. i wouldnt mind a 6 cylinder, but im happy now.

anyone know if theres an option for a frame swap no charge?

i think the whole reason for them purchasing back the 95.5-00 was because the frames for them were no longer being manufactured...

humanoid · 06-14-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STLharry

anyone know if theres an option for a frame swap no charge?

AFAIK, there is no option. Like I stated earlier, 95.5-00 buyback by Toyota, 01-04 frame swap or undercoating at the discretion of Toyota.. PERIOD.

blegros · 06-14-2009, 09:40 PM

For my 02 the letter I got says buyback or repair at the discretion of toyota if it fails.

STLharry · 06-14-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanoid

AFAIK, there is no option. Like I stated earlier, 95.5-00 buyback by Toyota, 01-04 frame swap or undercoating at the discretion of Toyota.. PERIOD.

damn. i dont want a new taco. i like her. i thought i heard the frame could be repaired/swapped. im wrong i guess. oh well

SRQ TACO · 06-14-2009, 11:37 PM

Took my truck in and it passed last week. Guy said it was the cleanest one he has seen yet to roll through there, virtually rust free.

oldtacomaguy · 06-15-2009, 09:42 AM

I was at the dealer earlier today and they were working on 2 frame replacements with another failed truck waiting outside for a new frame. The service manager took me back to have a look. I saw the bed of one truck sitting on a stand and the cab was up on a lift. The old frame was being stripped on the floor with the new frame sitting right next to it. They said it is 70 hours of labor to do the frame swap. It looked to me like they were doing a real nice job. The dealer I was at is in a small city (Norwich Ct) and they have allready done 7 frame swaps. I guess here in road salt country most of the frames are failing.

Norton Guy · 06-15-2009, 12:23 PM

I'm a little piXXed off at this point, I asked the dealer, " hey what about installing a clutch since it's all apart" . After they said $1000.00 the conversation took a decidedly less friendly tack. The bloody engine and trans are out on the floor and they want $1000 bucks for a clutch???!!!
Even Porsche mechanics aren't that rude.........I'll do it myself you wankers after you're done, oh and oh by the way, it better drive as well as before you took it apart.

mbtech208 · 06-15-2009, 11:04 PM

I think I cost somebody their truck today. Took my '97 into the dealer, and it passed. But by checking my truck, the technician thought to check another Tacoma he was doing a brake job on, and it failed. So somebody brought their truck in for brakes, and won't be getting it back again. So sad.

On another note, I just bought my truck last week and it is very clean for a '97. But living in a road salt state, I can't help but feel reluctant to do anything extra to it (lift, wheels, bedliner), because the dark cloud is constantly hanging over my head that one day the frame will eventually rust out. Does anybody else feel that way? Maybe I'll just keep bringing it to the dealer annually for the inspection, then after the frame warranty is up, if it's not rusted by that point, I'll just drive it until the damn truck breaks in half.

humanoid · 06-16-2009, 12:13 AM

mbtech, why not just undercoat it yourself now if the frame is in good condition?

oldtacomaguy · 06-16-2009, 07:22 AM

[quote=mbtech208;690695]I think I cost somebody their truck today. Took my '97 into the dealer, and it passed. But by checking my truck, the technician thought to check another Tacoma he was doing a brake job on, and it failed. So somebody brought their truck in for brakes, and won't be getting it back again. So sad.

I think you did that person a favor. You got them out of an unsafe truck that they didn't even know was unsafe. I'm surprised the dealer was even replacing the brakes without first checking the frame. All the service depts. are aware of this problem. I'm glad yours passed, but I would treat the frame and have it inspected every year. Good luck.

yote · 06-16-2009, 11:50 AM

I took my 98 TRD (204,000) in today and had it checked. The mechanic said it was solid as a rock... was really hoping the hammer would smash right through so I could get paid!

ChrisYoTaCoMa · 06-16-2009, 07:11 PM

Where is the most common spot they say will fail one? The one I bought from my brother in law a few weeks ago, a 2000, looks like it is in ecxellent shape from front to back. The truck lived in California from 2000-2006, NJ from 2006-2009, and now here in FL since March. So I think it was spared the salt crazy areas. BUT would like to know the spots to look for.

98tacoma27 · 06-16-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca441970

Where is the most common spot they say will fail one? The one I bought from my brother in law a few weeks ago, a 2000, looks like it is in ecxellent shape from front to back. The truck lived in California from 2000-2006, NJ from 2006-2009, and now here in FL since March. So I think it was spared the salt crazy areas. BUT would like to know the spots to look for.

Look above the rear leaf spring perches on the inside of the frame rails.

ChrisYoTaCoMa · 06-16-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98tacoma27

Look above the rear leaf spring perches on the inside of the frame rails.

Smack it with a hammer? I will be looking tomorrow after work. Thanks for the help/pointer.

98tacoma27 · 06-16-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca441970

Smack it with a hammer? I will be looking tomorrow after work. Thanks for the help/pointer.

Yep, that's what they do. Any where along the frame for that matter. Inside rail is the thinest.

06-05-2009, 05:27 AM	#601
Norton Guy Junior Member Joined: Aug 2008, #8490 Location: North East Posts: 10 02 Tacoma SR5 2002 Xtra Cab Manual 3.4 Magnaflow	Loyalty This is my 5th truck so they had me anyway. The Japanese manufacturers always go the extra mile IMHO. I worked for Honda for years and they generally didn't pinch pennies when it came to warranty work but then again it always depends on the service manager etc. __________________ I have an inferiority complex...but it's not a very good one.

06-14-2009, 10:15 AM	#603
oldtacomaguy four forty four Name: Dave Joined: Dec 2006, #444 Location: SE Conn. Age: 53 Gender: Male Posts: 2,092 08 SR-5 4WD Impulse Red Pearl 2008 Access Cab Automatic V-6 Alpine deck and amp, Polk speakers front and rear, Kenwood subwoofer, windows tinted to 20%, Weathertech rain guards, debadged, Sockmonkey custom decals, Grillcraft Grill, Suspension TSB.	That's great, now you have a "new" 02 just waiting to go another 300,000 miles! __________________

06-14-2009, 10:41 AM	#604
snoope Senior Member Name: Snoope Joined: Jun 2009, #18414 Location: new hampshire Gender: Male Posts: 143 02 taco xtra cab sr5 2002 Xtra Cab Automatic 2.7 4 banga' Fresh frame replace care of Toyo	oldtacomaguy, that is exactly what will happen......I have always traded the trucks out faithfully BUT now that Toyo has recreated this one.....200k here we come.......Moms Camry just rolled 148k and she got the "New Bug" with that Prius loaner....so we are "punishing" the dealer for a "weekend trip" once the Solar roof '10's come in .....the way I got it figured,the $$$ we save on gas mpgs with that lets me "dress" the Taco..... Snoope back quiet

06-14-2009, 09:09 PM	#605
STLharry Iron Oxide Sucks Joined: Oct 2008, #9899 Location: Vermont Age: 18 Gender: Guy Posts: 401 96 3RZ-FE 5spd 1996 Xtra Cab Manual 2.7L 4-banger ARB Bull Bar, NHOR Custom rear tube bumper, Full Old Man Emu suspension: 881s, N91S(front) and N85(rear) shocks, CS019R leafs with NWOR greasable shackles/spring pins and OME hardware; IPF square headlights with VisionX white 55/65W H4 bulbs, IPF 968 DCG 100W fog lights, deckplate mod, Dif Breather Extension, 32x11.5R15 BFG T/A tires, Snug-fit Mini-truck cap, Flowmaster 40 Series Delta cat back with NHOR custom shackle bolt hangar	Sweet. I have a 96. Barely any rust, an i am hoping it doesnt fail when i bring it in because i would only get around 7000-8000 for it, which won't buy me a newer 1st gen (really dont like 2nd gens). I also like the 96 face better and i have done a fail amount of mods. i wouldnt mind a 6 cylinder, but im happy now. anyone know if theres an option for a frame swap no charge? __________________ Most of the world's problems can be solved with brute force and stupidity. Maybe that's the problem... Meet Maggie. Vehicle Type: Tacoma. Year: 1996. Description: Lightly Modified.

06-14-2009, 11:37 PM	#610
SRQ TACO Oh man oh man I tell you what! Name: Damon Joined: May 2009, #16879 Location: Sarasota, Florida Age: 19 Gender: Male Posts: 537 00 RegularCab 5lug 2000 Regular Cab Automatic 2.4 15'' Mag Mopar Wheels, 225/75R15 Uniroyal Liberator A/T's, Diamondplate Tailgate cover, K&N Filter, Flowmaster 40 series Exhaust with 3.5'' Chrome tip, 01-04 Tail lights, FIAMM Freeway Blaster Horn, JVC Headunit, JVC Speakers, Total Mobile Audio 12'' Sub, Total Mobile Audio 400W Amp, Deckplate mod, Blacked out Tail Lights/3rd brake light/front turn signals, Monroe Gasmatics front and rear, Extang Freedom Tonneau Cover, 1.5'' Daystar Coil Spacer, Street scene front Grille and Valance Inserts, JDM Smoked Headlights/Corners	Took my truck in and it passed last week. Guy said it was the cleanest one he has seen yet to roll through there, virtually rust free. __________________ 1st Gens > 2nd Gens

06-13-2009, 07:01 PM	#602
snoope Senior Member Name: Snoope Joined: Jun 2009, #18414 Location: new hampshire Gender: Male Posts: 143 02 taco xtra cab sr5 2002 Xtra Cab Automatic 2.7 4 banga' Fresh frame replace care of Toyo	Hello, I just got my '02 back from my dealer with a complete "new frame",plus other goodies priced in.......with only 47k on it I was surprised when they told me it would "Make the Frame " test; failed out near my passenger rear spring hanger......just starting BUT they have treated me right for 30+ years and 13+ Toyota's.... The best part;watching these "techs" treat my '02 like brand new( service called me when they pulled the cab and bed off,plus updated when the rebuild started).....new front suspension ( ball joint recall also) ,lower A's plus bushings,new rear suspension complete ,brake lines plus E-brake cables and they matched my "Net shock" prices ( only thing not covered in the "swap"),new anti-freeze;including the block, R&R A/C , cleaned and re-oiled my K&N filter and a new lock for the spare..........."Devil in the details"............PLUS gave me a Toyota for those 11 days,yes it was a Prius BUT Now Mom wants one ( 54 mpg avg ) Snoope back quiet

06-14-2009, 09:40 PM	#608
blegros Junior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16411 Gender: Male Posts: 2	For my 02 the letter I got says buyback or repair at the discretion of toyota if it fails.

06-15-2009, 09:42 AM	#611
oldtacomaguy four forty four Name: Dave Joined: Dec 2006, #444 Location: SE Conn. Age: 53 Gender: Male Posts: 2,092 08 SR-5 4WD Impulse Red Pearl 2008 Access Cab Automatic V-6 Alpine deck and amp, Polk speakers front and rear, Kenwood subwoofer, windows tinted to 20%, Weathertech rain guards, debadged, Sockmonkey custom decals, Grillcraft Grill, Suspension TSB.	I was at the dealer earlier today and they were working on 2 frame replacements with another failed truck waiting outside for a new frame. The service manager took me back to have a look. I saw the bed of one truck sitting on a stand and the cab was up on a lift. The old frame was being stripped on the floor with the new frame sitting right next to it. They said it is 70 hours of labor to do the frame swap. It looked to me like they were doing a real nice job. The dealer I was at is in a small city (Norwich Ct) and they have allready done 7 frame swaps. I guess here in road salt country most of the frames are failing. __________________

06-15-2009, 12:23 PM	#612
Norton Guy Junior Member Joined: Aug 2008, #8490 Location: North East Posts: 10 02 Tacoma SR5 2002 Xtra Cab Manual 3.4 Magnaflow	Frame replacement I'm a little piXXed off at this point, I asked the dealer, " hey what about installing a clutch since it's all apart" . After they said $1000.00 the conversation took a decidedly less friendly tack. The bloody engine and trans are out on the floor and they want $1000 bucks for a clutch???!!! Even Porsche mechanics aren't that rude.........I'll do it myself you wankers after you're done, oh and oh by the way, it better drive as well as before you took it apart. __________________ I have an inferiority complex...but it's not a very good one.

06-15-2009, 11:04 PM	#613
mbtech208 Junior Member Joined: May 2009, #17070 Location: Peoria, Illinois Gender: Male Posts: 29 1997 Base 4WD regular cab 1997 Regular Cab Manual	I think I cost somebody their truck today. Took my '97 into the dealer, and it passed. But by checking my truck, the technician thought to check another Tacoma he was doing a brake job on, and it failed. So somebody brought their truck in for brakes, and won't be getting it back again. So sad. On another note, I just bought my truck last week and it is very clean for a '97. But living in a road salt state, I can't help but feel reluctant to do anything extra to it (lift, wheels, bedliner), because the dark cloud is constantly hanging over my head that one day the frame will eventually rust out. Does anybody else feel that way? Maybe I'll just keep bringing it to the dealer annually for the inspection, then after the frame warranty is up, if it's not rusted by that point, I'll just drive it until the damn truck breaks in half.

06-16-2009, 12:13 AM	#614
humanoid Who is nd??? Joined: Jun 2007, #1932 Location: Sunny SoCal Gender: Dude Posts: 2,216 I had a '99 Xtra Cab PreRunner SR5 V6 Automatic	mbtech, why not just undercoat it yourself now if the frame is in good condition?

06-16-2009, 07:22 AM	#615
oldtacomaguy four forty four Name: Dave Joined: Dec 2006, #444 Location: SE Conn. Age: 53 Gender: Male Posts: 2,092 08 SR-5 4WD Impulse Red Pearl 2008 Access Cab Automatic V-6 Alpine deck and amp, Polk speakers front and rear, Kenwood subwoofer, windows tinted to 20%, Weathertech rain guards, debadged, Sockmonkey custom decals, Grillcraft Grill, Suspension TSB.	[quote=mbtech208;690695]I think I cost somebody their truck today. Took my '97 into the dealer, and it passed. But by checking my truck, the technician thought to check another Tacoma he was doing a brake job on, and it failed. So somebody brought their truck in for brakes, and won't be getting it back again. So sad. I think you did that person a favor. You got them out of an unsafe truck that they didn't even know was unsafe. I'm surprised the dealer was even replacing the brakes without first checking the frame. All the service depts. are aware of this problem. I'm glad yours passed, but I would treat the frame and have it inspected every year. Good luck. __________________

06-16-2009, 11:50 AM	#616
yote Member Joined: Jun 2009, #18020 Location: North Carolina Gender: Male Posts: 33 09 TRD Sport / 98 TRD OffRoad 2009 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 None Yet	I took my 98 TRD (204,000) in today and had it checked. The mechanic said it was solid as a rock... was really hoping the hammer would smash right through so I could get paid!

06-16-2009, 07:11 PM	#617
ChrisYoTaCoMa Chrome's for Harleys and old farts Name: Chris Joined: May 2009, #17828 Location: Estero, Floriduh Age: 39 Gender: Dude Posts: 580 00 Taco 4x4 Ex cab 2.7 sr5 AT 2000 Xtra Cab Automatic 2.7 New Pioneer stereo, and all 4 speakers with Infinity components. Sirius satellite radio. Deckplate mod done. Door buzzer silenced forever thank God, tinted windows, vent visors, hood protector(bug guard), ceramic pads and new rotors, dechromed EVERYTHING. 2" Lift front 3" rear. Skyjacker AAL's and replacement leafs(and front spacers) from Fatbobsgarage.com. Skyjacker 7000 Hydro rear shocks, those Bilstein 5100 fronts are coming soon!	Where is the most common spot they say will fail one? The one I bought from my brother in law a few weeks ago, a 2000, looks like it is in ecxellent shape from front to back. The truck lived in California from 2000-2006, NJ from 2006-2009, and now here in FL since March. So I think it was spared the salt crazy areas. BUT would like to know the spots to look for.

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