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Building sliders

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Wreckless_71, May 27, 2010.

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How should I build my sliders?

Poll closed Jun 26, 2010.
  1. Bolt on

    42 vote(s)
    56.0%
  2. Weld on

    33 vote(s)
    44.0%
  1. May 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM
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    GWL

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  2. May 27, 2010 at 7:52 PM
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    I bolted mine on, haven't had a minutes trouble and have given em hell. Plus draggin across rocks you are gonna scratch em up really bad. I had mine powder coated and 1st time I went to URE the bottoms were scratched up pretty bad.

    Thought about taking them off and hitting the underside with rino liner or somethin, I'm sure whatever I coat them with will get scratched off, but It's much easier to take them off and work on them than trying to lay on the ground and work overhead.

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  3. May 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM
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    It really comes down to what YOU want. Bolt on's have way more benefits imo. People do weld on's for the simplicity and because they think they're stronger that way. The frame see's no heat with bolt on's. Companies offer weld on's often because they haven't gone through the hassle of making fixtures to ship them bolt on with the angles all correct & legs & frame plates attached, but then you're left having to find someone to weld them on, and hoping they do a good job.
     
  4. May 28, 2010 at 3:26 AM
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    I will try to get some pics of how I bolted them up
     
  5. May 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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  6. May 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM
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    yup i bought some from shrockworks and had them welded on i plan on using them
     
  7. May 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM
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    Wreckless_71

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    I can still see it either way, and it seems like a toss up. I will be using them, I'm not a mall crawler by any means, us PNW guys know how to wheel hard plus I spend a lot of time offroad at work and with my families business (rock quarry/trucking/excavation). Drilling holes definitely won't be strengthening the frame but I figure if you bolt it up good and sandwich the frame with the u style bracket as mentioned it should be pretty tough, I almost think this would create a stiffer slider than a weld on, especially with gusset plates... I would love to see some under body pics of both weld ons and bolt ons.
     
  8. May 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM
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    Here are a few pics, I used existing holes in the frame where I could.
    The holes on the bottom on the most forward part of the slider were drilled and tapped.

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  9. May 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM
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    well thats bloody easy on a 2nd gen when the frame isn't boxed, you try that on a first gen with a boxed frame
     
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  10. May 28, 2010 at 5:57 PM
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    oh yeah... guess so...
    MY BADD!!

    Don't know what I was thinking, thought We were talking 2nd gen...
    BRAIN FART!!

    LOVE MINE THOUGH!!
     
  11. May 28, 2010 at 7:17 PM
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    yep, yours do look good, i probably would have bolted mine if the frame wasn't boxed
     
  12. May 29, 2010 at 9:27 AM
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    The frame is a 2 piece design and plenty strong. You have to drill through 2 layers of frame and I really don't believe any strength is lost at all since they come with a million holes in them anyway.

    You can always drill the hole on both sides and then sleeve it like I'm doing for this winch bumper.....

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  13. Jun 12, 2010 at 10:21 AM
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    I will be bolting mine on. Easier to remove for maintenance, or to replace.
    Any well trained mechanic will tell you not to weld to the frame. You do affect the heat treating on the frame in a negative way.
    Failure of the bars? No big deal. Failure of the frame? Maybe catastrophic.
    It's your frame, do what you like.
     
  14. Jun 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM
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    Weld on the frame, but do it right.
     
  15. Jun 12, 2010 at 10:24 PM
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    Bolt on, the reason is this, if you offroad in areas or the type of terrain that requires sliders there's a good chance at some point where you'll hit hard enough to pinch your sliders into the rocker panels that your protecting.

    If this happens, its a lot easier to just unbolt the damaged armor & repair or replace than to crawl underneath & have to cut & grind it off & re-sleeve & re weld, well drilled (& located) holes for the frame rail braces, w/good grade hardened steel bolts w/Nylock aircraft nuts will hold just fine.....:cool:
     
  16. Jun 13, 2010 at 7:19 AM
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    i thought that point of a slider was to take the hits and not bend. Well thats what i had in mind when i built mine anyway.
     
  17. Jun 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM
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    point is that if you hit something hard enough, steel will bend and break. I've pretty much decided to bolt them on. I can make some very sturdy sliders that bolt on, probably more sturdy than a pair of weld on's...
     
  18. Jun 14, 2010 at 10:49 PM
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    a couple descent size bolts imo
     

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