Silverbacks Tacoma Evolution

yotarob2005 · 10-19-2009, 05:25 AM

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Blue = Samster0077

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so this is where that is from!

Yeah, you're welcome Sam

Fire931 · 10-19-2009, 06:53 AM

looking good man!! can't wait to see it finished up..

hearing what you said about that box kinda makes me wanna rip the carpet off mine and check it out.

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire931

looking good man!! can't wait to see it finished up..

hearing what you said about that box kinda makes me wanna rip the carpet off mine and check it out.

thanks!

yeah, I was pretty shocked at how badly it was put together. A handful of brads, some glue, and minimal amount of silicone inside. I could stick a putty knife under some of the gaps and poke into the box! But now its very solid!

Fire931 · 10-19-2009, 07:19 AM

thats crazy.. you said that was a super crew sound box??

Anathollo · 10-19-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by silverback07

thanks!

yeah, I was pretty shocked at how badly it was put together. A handful of brads, some glue, and minimal amount of silicone inside. I could stick a putty knife under some of the gaps and poke into the box! But now its very solid!

Wow! It was only a matter of time till that box failed then...Man that sucks! Rhinoline it like mine! Then you won't have ANY cracks or gaps!

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire931

thats crazy.. you said that was a super crew sound box??

yep! I should have taken some before pics.

But I didn't.. was in too big of a hurry I guess. Maybe I got one built on a Friday afternoon.. just before quitting time?

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 07:29 AM

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Wow! It was only a matter of time till that box failed then...Man that sucks! Rhinoline it like mine! Then you won't have ANY cracks or gaps!

I used a gallon of epoxy resin to seal it up.. plus some Gorilla glue and silicone sealer. I then sprayed the inside with bedliner and coated the outside with the plasti-cote rubber spray... then added the black vinyl. Its super dense now.

Fire931 · 10-19-2009, 07:32 AM

yea i'm gonna have to rip the carpet off mine now cuz i have the same box from them..... just imagine how big a difference that was making in the sound of your system......

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 07:37 AM

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yea i'm gonna have to rip the carpet off mine now cuz i have the same box from them..... just imagine how big a difference that was making in the sound of your system......

Well I could tell something was up because I put my hand around the sides with the stereo cranked and I could feel a slight bit of air leaking from around the passenger side at the top. Thats what prompted me to pull the carpet in the first place. I then pushed on the cones without power on and I could hear it leaking out on the passenger side. The drivers side seemed to be ok, but after pulling the carpet it looked to be held together.. barely.

SC4333 · 10-19-2009, 12:41 PM

Sean, did you happen to look at the JL 13TW5 when you were considering what to do with your subs? I'm in the market for a low profile sub right now but havent been able to decide on which one. If you checked out the JL TW5 at all, let me know what you thought about it and why you decided against it. Thanks!

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 05:43 PM

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Sean, did you happen to look at the JL 13TW5 when you were considering what to do with your subs? I'm in the market for a low profile sub right now but havent been able to decide on which one. If you checked out the JL TW5 at all, let me know what you thought about it and why you decided against it. Thanks!

well that was my original plan, the JL's. But a buddy of mine has the Premier 10's in his SuperDuty and they sounded great! So I thought I'd try the 12's. Worst case I'll upgrade to the JL's later. But for the price the Pioneer Premiers sound pretty damn good!! I had them hooked up for a little bit and they sounded damn good! They still need to get broken in and I still need to hook up my DQX and tune it. But so far I'm pretty happy with them.

SC4333 · 10-19-2009, 06:10 PM

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well that was my original plan, the JL's. But a buddy of mine has the Premier 10's in his SuperDuty and they sounded great! So I thought I'd try the 12's. Worst case I'll upgrade to the JL's later. But for the price the Pioneer Premiers sound pretty damn good!! I had them hooked up for a little bit and they sounded damn good! They still need to get broken in and I still need to hook up my DQX and tune it. But so far I'm pretty happy with them.

Interesting. If I can ever make it to one of the meets

I definitely want to hear how the premiers sound. I'm still on the fence with the JL's because of the price. I know they sounds great, but it sure is quite a bit of money for one woofer. Anyways, I appreciate the info!

Fire931 · 10-19-2009, 06:15 PM

so you said you had to do some modifications to the back of the box for the 12's to fit??? got any pics of that?

silverback07 · 10-19-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire931

so you said you had to do some modifications to the back of the box for the 12's to fit??? got any pics of that?

I don't. But the SCS box has a large channel on the backside, well I basically cut out the center section and then fiberglassed it in with heavy duty cloth and resin. Its the same basic shape, but the center area has more depth for the magnet yet it still clears the backside. I need to pull the box out a little to hook up some wires, when I do I'll try to grab some pics.

Fire931 · 10-19-2009, 06:24 PM

that would be great if you can manage.. depending on how yours turns out i may copy you at some point and throw a set of those in mine...

i had a set of 12" directed competition subs in my last two trucks and i sure to miss them!!! but there way no way they were gonna fit behind the seat of this truck..

silverback07 · 10-20-2009, 10:35 AM

Hey Kevin, I got a couple pics. Not the greatest.

You can see the area in the middle where its a little 'warped'.. thats where I cut out the wood and then replaced it all with resin and cloth.

One other thing... the area on the bottom of the box where there is a thin piece of wood. Thats SCS solution to deep mount subs. I resined the hell out of that area. Inside I coated it MANY times as I felt it was the weakest area of the box (besides the seams)

if you looked from the inside its a circular cut that matches the shape of the woofer (after I made the hole large enough for it to fit into), only inwards about an inch. Its cut down to just the edge of the thickness of the wood that I removed, so about 3/4". I then used a pretty thick new towel as the matting. Soaking it in resin, front and back, applying and then coating many more times... another layer of cloth in the inside as well.

I just went out and hooked up my DQX, used some old RCA's and some old power cables. Man it sounded AWESOME!! I didn't mess with any of the input settings or EQ settings (30 bands per channel, plus 2 parametric bands). The only adjustment I made was to set the bandpass (8" Pioneers in the doors) to have a bandpass of 80-450. It sounded farking awesome! I'm very very happy. Now to just get my DDC, cables and everything so I can install it properly.

tooblutacoma06 · 10-20-2009, 12:09 PM

Those pre-fabbed boxes can be sketchy. I got mine (music moose) a while ago and so far its held up but I haven't examined it that closely. I got tired of the 10s though and started working on this:

Didn't get the time to finish it though. It fit two Image Dynamics ID12s easily. Fiberglassing is a ton of work though!

Fire931 · 10-20-2009, 02:36 PM

looking good man... thanks for the pics although i'm having a hard time picking out which part is the modified part...

and on the bottom... are you saying it was really thin?? is that why you added resin...

silverback07 · 10-20-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tooblutacoma06

Those pre-fabbed boxes can be sketchy. I got mine (music moose) a while ago and so far its held up but I haven't examined it that closely. I got tired of the 10s though and started working on this:

Didn't get the time to finish it though. It fit two Image Dynamics ID12s easily. Fiberglassing is a ton of work though!

Thats a nice looking box. My thoughts where that I would try to 'fix' the box I have... if I failed I would start from scratch. But I'm pretty happy with how dense and air tight it is now.

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Originally Posted by Fire931

looking good man... thanks for the pics although i'm having a hard time picking out which part is the modified part...

and on the bottom... are you saying it was really thin?? is that why you added resin...

LOL.. yeah, the hold was about 8 inches wide, and about 2-3 inches tall... in an arch. But once I put the cloth and resin over it, you can't really tell. I stapled the cloth in place so it sorta follows the shape already.

Yes, the square piece on the bottom is only about 1/4" thick. So I put a bunch of resin and cloth on the inside of it to strengthen it up.

I got my DQX installed in the place I want to eventually put it. But I need to put the screws back in place for the seat storage box and I still need my "good" RCA interconnects. UPS says tomorrow! Once its hear I'll button it all up.

thekidcatcher · 10-20-2009, 09:04 PM

Nice man! Guess ill be seein it here this weekend!!

10-19-2009, 06:53 AM	#842
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	looking good man!! can't wait to see it finished up.. hearing what you said about that box kinda makes me wanna rip the carpet off mine and check it out. __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-19-2009, 07:19 AM	#844
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	thats crazy.. you said that was a super crew sound box?? __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-19-2009, 07:32 AM	#848
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	yea i'm gonna have to rip the carpet off mine now cuz i have the same box from them..... just imagine how big a difference that was making in the sound of your system...... __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-19-2009, 06:15 PM	#853
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	so you said you had to do some modifications to the back of the box for the 12's to fit??? got any pics of that? __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-19-2009, 06:24 PM	#855
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	that would be great if you can manage.. depending on how yours turns out i may copy you at some point and throw a set of those in mine... i had a set of 12" directed competition subs in my last two trucks and i sure to miss them!!! but there way no way they were gonna fit behind the seat of this truck.. __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-19-2009, 12:41 PM	#850
SC4333 Senior Member Name: Grant Joined: Dec 2008, #11412 Location: San Antonio, TX Gender: Male Posts: 1,939 '08 PreRunner SR5 2008 Access Cab Manual 2TR-FE 5100s @ 2.5; SAW 2.0 & AAL in the rear; DIY DTRLs, Alternating turn signals & 6k HID bi-xenons; Viper alarm; 3M Tint 22% in the front, 13% over stock in rear; P500UB Pioneer Premier, 12"Alpine Type R w/ custom enclosure, MTX Thunder amp; Always on 12v Outlets, 12v Outlet under hood; Secondary air filter removed; Debadged; A few other little things.	Sean, did you happen to look at the JL 13TW5 when you were considering what to do with your subs? I'm in the market for a low profile sub right now but havent been able to decide on which one. If you checked out the JL TW5 at all, let me know what you thought about it and why you decided against it. Thanks!

10-20-2009, 10:35 AM	#856
silverback07 Taco¹ Name: Sean Joined: Jul 2008, #7986 Location: Austin Gender: Male Posts: 5,803 07 TRD OR DC 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Tons of stuff	Hey Kevin, I got a couple pics. Not the greatest. You can see the area in the middle where its a little 'warped'.. thats where I cut out the wood and then replaced it all with resin and cloth. One other thing... the area on the bottom of the box where there is a thin piece of wood. Thats SCS solution to deep mount subs. I resined the hell out of that area. Inside I coated it MANY times as I felt it was the weakest area of the box (besides the seams) if you looked from the inside its a circular cut that matches the shape of the woofer (after I made the hole large enough for it to fit into), only inwards about an inch. Its cut down to just the edge of the thickness of the wood that I removed, so about 3/4". I then used a pretty thick new towel as the matting. Soaking it in resin, front and back, applying and then coating many more times... another layer of cloth in the inside as well. I just went out and hooked up my DQX, used some old RCA's and some old power cables. Man it sounded AWESOME!! I didn't mess with any of the input settings or EQ settings (30 bands per channel, plus 2 parametric bands). The only adjustment I made was to set the bandpass (8" Pioneers in the doors) to have a bandpass of 80-450. It sounded farking awesome! I'm very very happy. Now to just get my DDC, cables and everything so I can install it properly. __________________ My Build 2007 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4, Leather Fox 2.0's, OME Dakars, Total Chaos UCA, Tom Wood CV Driveshaft, BFG KM2, XD Enduro's, Goodridge SS brake lines, Timbrens, 4.56 gears Rocktec & AllPro bumpers, Shrockworks sliders, Grillcraft MX, C2C struts, Full BudBuilt skids, PIAA 510's, Safari Snorkel Warn M8000, MasterPull Superline, 60” HiLift Extreme, Oasis On-board Air, Dual Batteries, UWS Chest, SockMonkey decals A-pillar pod w/ Autometer gauges, ScanGauge II, Midland CB w/ 3' FireFly, Alpine/MB Quart/Premier, Garmin Nuvi 500

10-20-2009, 12:09 PM	#857
tooblutacoma06 Member Name: Kellon Joined: Apr 2007, #1426 Location: Gainesville, FL Gender: Male Posts: 82	Those pre-fabbed boxes can be sketchy. I got mine (music moose) a while ago and so far its held up but I haven't examined it that closely. I got tired of the 10s though and started working on this: Didn't get the time to finish it though. It fit two Image Dynamics ID12s easily. Fiberglassing is a ton of work though! __________________ 2006 SWB DC 4x4 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2351038

10-20-2009, 02:36 PM	#858
Fire931 Armor Tech Offroad Name: Kevin Joined: Jan 2009, #12687 Location: Virginia Gender: Male Posts: 1,516 07 Doublecab Sport 2007 Double Cab Manual 4.0 allpro front plate bumper with piaa's, xrc10 winch w/synthetic line, 4xinnovation sliders, ATO rear bumper, backup camera, full set of rock lights, arb rear locker, viair onboard air, sockmonkey decals, black billet grill, BHLM, fox 2.0 coilovers, tc uca's, no swaybar, alcan aal in rear, ATO rear shackle flip bilstein 5100's, inchworm cralwer and lefty tcase with twinsticks, mickey thompson mtz's w/ classic lock wheels, lots of stereo stuff, blue gauges with white needles	looking good man... thanks for the pics although i'm having a hard time picking out which part is the modified part... and on the bottom... are you saying it was really thin?? is that why you added resin... __________________ My Build ARMOR TECH OFFROAD 540-784-0197 kevin@armortechoffroad.com Product Pictures / Info

10-20-2009, 09:04 PM	#860
thekidcatcher Senior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #15573 Location: Georgetown,Tx Age: 21 Gender: Male Posts: 1,565 05 TRD offroad SR5 2005 Double Cab Automatic V6 4.0L Toy-tec lift, Helo rims, BFG KM2 285/75/R16, Warn M8000 w/ Warn wirless remote, CB, PA, 12in sub with alpine amp, All-Pro offroad front/rear/rocksliders, highlift jack, JBA headers, midpipe, exhaust, Volant CAI w/ scoop, strobes, Siren, Bilstein 5100 in front, UWS toolbox, Dual Battery, Warn Air compressor, Total Chaos UCA's, 5150's bilstein, URD MAF sensor, u bolt flip kit	Nice man! Guess ill be seein it here this weekend!! __________________ Just hit it with some speed, you'll be alright... My Build

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