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Old 02-26-2014, 12:59 PM   #1
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Finally decided to get a new thread going for the development of the aluminum roof racks. If you are interested in the development of these racks you can check the old thread here:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...roof-rack.html

This thread will focus on the fully aluminum model that I started developing in the last thread. I will be offering these racks for 2nd Generation Double Cab Tacomas, as well as most toppers and camper shells with thule or yakima tracks installed. I also will be offering them for FJ Cruiser in the next few weeks once I get the first on installed.

Benefits of these racks are:

Completely Bolt Together Assembly Anyone can install one and they can be broken down for shipping or storage.

Completely Aluminum, They won't rust and you can drill and modify them however you want without fear of rust. They are also about 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of the steel version.

80/20 Aluminum Extrusion Crossbars allow you to mount tie down hardware or bolt items to the rack with ease.

Easy to modify By loosening bolts you can shift crossbars to different locations as well as add and remove crossbars whenever you need to.

I originally wanted to do group buy pricing on these to try and bring cost down as much as possible but with the first set of racks it was difficult to organize groups as people have lives and often times life changes our plans more frequently than we would like. So I am simply going to offer these at the lower end of the group buy pricing that I had stated in the other thread.

Pricing is as follows:

2nd Gen. Tacoma Double Cab Roof Rack (Unpainted)- $435.00 + Shipping

Details:

(2) Laser Cut Aluminum Side Rails
(6)80/20 Part#1575 Aluminum Extrusion Crossbars (More can be added if desired for an additional $17 per crossbar.)
(1)Laser Cut Aluminum Deflector with 2 Aluminum Extrusion Mounting bars of the same type used for cross bars.
All necessary hardware to assemble rack plus tie down hardware compatible with aluminum extrusion crossbars. (All hardware will be either stainless steel or zinc plated.)


Camper Shell/Topper/Hard Tonneau Rack (Unpainted) - $395.00 + Shipping

(2)Laser Cut Aluminum Side Rails
(6)80/20 Part#1575 Aluminum Extrusion Crossbars (More can be added if desired for an additional $15 per crossbar.)
All necessary hardware to assemble rack plus tie down hardware compatible with aluminum extrusion crossbars. (All hardware will be either stainless steel or zinc plated.)

2nd Gen. Tacoma Access Cab Roof Rack (Unpainted)- $405.00.00 + Shipping

(2)Laser Cut Aluminum Side Rails
(5)80/20 Part#1575 Aluminum Extrusion Crossbars (More can be added if desired for an additional $17 per crossbar.)
(1)Laser Cut Aluminum Deflector with 2 Aluminum Extrusion Mounting bars of the same type used for cross bars.
All necessary hardware to assemble rack plus tie down hardware compatible with aluminum extrusion crossbars. (All hardware will be either stainless steel or zinc plated.)

FJ Cruiser Roof Rack (Unpainted)- $575.00 + Shipping

(2)Steel Laser Cut Side Rails
(8)80/20 Part#1020 Aluminum Extrusion Crossbars (More can be added if desired for an additional $25 per crossbar.)
(1)Laser Cut Aluminum Deflector with 1 Aluminum Extrusion Mounting bar of the same type used for cross bars.
All necessary hardware to assemble rack plus tie down hardware compatible with aluminum extrusion crossbars. (All hardware will be either stainless steel or zinc plated.)


Options
Powder Coating will be a separate option and will range from $155.00 for the basic double cab rack, $140.00 for the access cab rack and racks for toppers. PM for quote on powdercoating for FJ Cruisers. Prices will increase slightly if you add more crossbars.

Shipping
Shipping will be through UPS/Fedex.

Pacific Time Zone: $50.00
Mountain Time Zone: $45.00
Central Time Zone: $55.00
Eastern Time Zone: $65.00

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Users are responsible for using common sense, and good judgement when using these racks. They are designed for off road use and although they can be used for utility and other purposes, heavy loads should be avoided and proper restraints should be used for all loads. I will not be held liable for overloading these cargo systems to the point of failure and damage to your vehicle/equipment or others. By installing this item on your vehicle you assume liability.
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Scott, I'm very impressed at how fast you're moving with these prototypes. I do have a few concerns that I'd like to mention.

1. The long slot for the cross bars is going to be a weak point. The top of the washer is going to bear on an unsuported strip of 1/4 aluminum. I would suggest that you lay out holes along the side rail that would fit the pattern in the cross bars. You could make several groups of holes so that each cross bar could be moved forward or back several inches.

2. With the shallow cross bar your bearing surface is low meaning your side to side stability will be low. I was planning on using one of the square shapes and adding an angle to the underside of each bar to tie the side rail and the bar together.

3. On a personal note, I would like to see the feet land on the rubber molding without the use of a spacer, but that's just me.


Please keep up the great work. I'm glad to see someone working on this.
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is there a discount for ordering both truck and camper?
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1. The long slot for the cross bars is going to be a weak point. The top of the washer is going to bear on an unsuported strip of 1/4 aluminum. I would suggest that you lay out holes along the side rail that would fit the pattern in the cross bars. You could make several groups of holes so that each cross bar could be moved forward or back several inches.
I agree but I love the overall design...The option to add and move the crossbars is awesome!
I plan to strap my 33" spare up there so strength and stability is a must!
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Scott, I'm very impressed at how fast you're moving with these prototypes. I do have a few concerns that I'd like to mention.

1. The long slot for the cross bars is going to be a weak point. The top of the washer is going to bear on an unsuported strip of 1/4 aluminum. I would suggest that you lay out holes along the side rail that would fit the pattern in the cross bars. You could make several groups of holes so that each cross bar could be moved forward or back several inches.

2. With the shallow cross bar your bearing surface is low meaning your side to side stability will be low. I was planning on using one of the square shapes and adding an angle to the underside of each bar to tie the side rail and the bar together.

3. On a personal note, I would like to see the feet land on the rubber molding without the use of a spacer, but that's just me.


Please keep up the great work. I'm glad to see someone working on this.

1. AGREED! There are few points where it ties in for reinforcement on the prototype model. It is pretty stable as is but I wasn't completely satisfied so I have modified the rail that will be used for production to have more points of reinforcement without loosing the ability to move the bars around a little bit. Instead of having individual holes the entire length of the rail there will be mini slots so that bars can be adjusted forward and backward.

2. I went back and forth on this option. I liked the fact that the square extrusions would have more mounting surface but many of the square options only had one tapped hole where the 1575 has 2. I also thought that the square would be overkill as it has 4 channels and I didn't want to overbuild the rack.

I am satisfied with how sturdy it is with the shallow bars but I have made an adjustment for the final production model that will allow a crossbar in the front, middle and back to swivel down and bolt in making the crossbar become a deep profile and adding rigidity and strength when it is desired. That way I think the rack stays clean and functional for light loads, but still can be adjusted for heavy loads.

3. This is the only point you have made that I don't have a solution for. The channels on the roof are curved in that the front mounting points are wider than the rear. For the rails to fit right down in the channels the crossbars would have to be different lengths which defeat the purpose of the moveable extrusion crossbars. I am working on making it so that the spacer is a abs plastic block rather than round aluminum spacers but testing it out, the difference in strength and stability is negligible.

I hope I don't come across as snobby and defensive. I really do appreciate the criticism and advice. I am sure new ideas will come along in the future just like they do with any product, but for now I think this model will serve the needs of quite a few people.
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is there a discount for ordering both truck and camper?
I can probably offer some sort of deal. Also, shipping for the pair shouldn't increase greatly.
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I agree but I love the overall design...The option to add and move the crossbars is awesome!
I plan to strap my 33" spare up there so strength and stability is a must!
Just responded to the concern and I wouldn't hesitate to have the spare up there with the modifications I have made.
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is there a discount for ordering both truck and camper?
X2! I'm still narrowing my decision on a new shell but most likely will be a Snugtop Rebel with Yakima tracks.
Also, would you make a longer shell rack for the long beds like mine? Same price?
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X2! I'm still narrowing my decision on a new shell but most likely will be a Snugtop Rebel with Yakima tracks.
Also, would you make a longer shell rack for the long beds like mine? Same price?
I can make it slightly longer but the maximum length I can do is 60". The one in the picture is 52". The reason being is that in order to bend 1/4" aluminum you have to bend it against the grain or it has a tendency to crack. The largest sheet of aluminum I can get is 5' wide by 10' long. Grain runs along the width so 5' limits the length. If you want it longer than that I can do rails out of steel designed the same way to use whatever crossbars.
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1. AGREED! There are few points where it ties in for reinforcement on the prototype model. It is pretty stable as is but I wasn't completely satisfied so I have modified the rail that will be used for production to have more points of reinforcement without loosing the ability to move the bars around a little bit. Instead of having individual holes the entire length of the rail there will be mini slots so that bars can be adjusted forward and backward.

Perfect!

2. I went back and forth on this option. I liked the fact that the square extrusions would have more mounting surface but many of the square options only had one tapped hole where the 1575 has 2. I also thought that the square would be overkill as it has 4 channels and I didn't want to overbuild the rack.

I am satisfied with how sturdy it is with the shallow bars but I have made an adjustment for the final production model that will allow a crossbar in the front, middle and back to swivel down and bolt in making the crossbar become a deep profile and adding rigidity and strength when it is desired. That way I think the rack stays clean and functional for light loads, but still can be adjusted for heavy loads.

I like the idea of turning the bars vertical. That will also let you mount lights on the front and back to the slot in the extrusion. Great idea!

3. This is the only point you have made that I don't have a solution for. The channels on the roof are curved in that the front mounting points are wider than the rear. For the rails to fit right down in the channels the crossbars would have to be different lengths which defeat the purpose of the moveable extrusion crossbars. I am working on making it so that the spacer is a abs plastic block rather than round aluminum spacers but testing it out, the difference in strength and stability is negligible.

I hope I don't come across as snobby and defensive. I really do appreciate the criticism and advice. I am sure new ideas will come along in the future just like they do with any product, but for now I think this model will serve the needs of quite a few people.

I agree that getting the feet down on the roof would be a trick considering the holes in the roof don't line up in a line.
Hey, I'm offering constructive criticism and you're coming back with well thought out responses. It's all good!
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I can make it slightly longer but the maximum length I can do is 60". The one in the picture is 52". The reason being is that in order to bend 1/4" aluminum you have to bend it against the grain or it has a tendency to crack. The largest sheet of aluminum I can get is 5' wide by 10' long. Grain runs along the width so 5' limits the length. If you want it longer than that I can do rails out of steel designed the same way to use whatever crossbars.
Ok great...I'll decide when I get it...just want to maximize the use of the space up there.
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nvm... i didnt read your full response earlier
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nice work!
Thanks!

If anyone wants one of these let me know and I can get your order going. I am still planning on doing come giveaways and such if there is enough interest and enough people order.
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I'm definitely interested, but may have to wait a paycheck or two. When are you thinking of doing your run?
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I'm definitely interested, but may have to wait a paycheck or two. When are you thinking of doing your run?
I went ahead and had the fab shop cut the rails. Now whenever you guys are ready you can place an order. I just will be in the hole a little till people order.
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I didn't see it so I figured I would ask. What kind of weight capacity are we looking at here? Is it something that would be safe to mount a rtt to?
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I didn't see it so I figured I would ask. What kind of weight capacity are we looking at here? Is it something that would be safe to mount a rtt to?
I don't have a specific number, but when the crossbars are arranged correctly it should have no problems with a roof top tent. You can also add more crossbars than the standard six if you are concerned about weight.

The standard setup will allow you to turn front and rear crossbars on their side maximizing their weight capacity and eliminating deflection. It allows you to join the two in the front and rear together into "supercharged" cross bars leaving two crossbars to stabilize the center.
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I went ahead and had the fab shop cut the rails. Now whenever you guys are ready you can place an order. I just will be in the hole a little till people order.
I'm really interested, but like the others have mentioned, that long slot is a design aspect I'm not a fan of. I saw you mentioned that you'd change it to a few shorter slots. Do you have a CAD image or photo of what these will look like? If you have that, I should be good to place an order in a week or so.

I'm looking at a DC rack with 8 crossbars, powder-coated black, shipped to 03031. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not clutter your thread.

Thanks.
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