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Warm up or not?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by newtaco2008, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. Oct 16, 2010 at 8:51 PM
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    jdtemple

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    It's not about warming an engine up faster. It's about giving everything time to start expanding.

    Gaskets are more brittle when cold, and can tear or break causing oil/coolant leaks.

    When your done driving your truck for the day, you don't rapidly cool the engine down, that would cause problems too.
     
  2. Oct 16, 2010 at 8:54 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Most gaskets are engineered to withstand VERY cold weather operation.....The Gaskets arent going to break. Heat causes more damage to the gaskets than cold does.
     
  3. Oct 16, 2010 at 8:55 PM
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    Same here. I have noticed the truck runs a lot better if I let it warm up for about 5 to 10 min.
     
  4. Oct 16, 2010 at 9:02 PM
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    I like a little heat transfer to the tranny before I put a load on it. I also like a gradual warming of the engine. So I wait till the temp needle just starts to move then I go drive easy till it is up to temp. Maybe I don't really need to do that but I have done that to all 14 vehicles in my life and never had mechanical problems with any of them, and this one has 93,000 miles trouble free so far.
     
  5. Oct 16, 2010 at 9:16 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Welp....Im gonna throw another little nugget out there for folks to ponder......


    Whats an engines nemisis?



    Anyone?


    Oh....You cant see this until I post it.....:p


    Anyway.....Its water. We all know water can wreak havoc on an engines internals. Ok then.....Did you all know a by product of the combustion process is water? Yeppo! Water vapor is getting into the oil, and such. Now....By warming the engine slowly, well, your letting more water build in the crank case. This is no bueno. Not so bad if your gonna drive for a half hour or longer, to let the water evaporate out, but a slow warm up, and short trips CAN detrimentally effect the engines life span. Get the eninge to opperating temp quickly, and less water can accumulate in the oil. Also....Keep in mind, modern engines have nice tight tolerances. And the oil is better at lubricating the internals. AND.......*drumroll*.......You SAVE gas by getting the engine warmed up faster!

    *crowd gasps*

    Yes....yes....its true..

    wait....we have a question...You threre...in the back....


    *muffled voice*

    "how can the engine use LESS fuel if your getting on it and driving right away? Your useing more throttle!


    Ok...The longer the engine is in Open Loop, the longer its being run in a rich condition, thus burning more fuel. Driving the vehicle is the best way to warm it up more quickly. It even says so in the owners manuals. :)
     
  6. Oct 16, 2010 at 9:48 PM
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  7. Oct 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM
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  8. Oct 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM
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    living here, i will let it warm up enough to defrost the windshield and then take it easy on the 5 mile trip to my 1st main road. easily see - 15 with the wind chill for a couple of months out of the year.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2010 at 11:34 PM
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    Every time one of these threads starts I am shocked at the utter ignorance of some people.

    start the car and drive immediately? Really? Why would anyone suggest something like that. Do you have something invested in the demise of that gentleman's car?

    Idling the car to warm up is bad? If you can idle 2 to 3 minutes while waiting for a red light I'm god damn sure you can idle 2 to 3 minutes to give your engine a chance for the oil to properly circulate.
    It can take up to one minute. So start and drive? You like revving your engine when it is cold and dry? Then go ahead dummies.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2010 at 11:39 PM
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    That is a pretty stupid reason to not warm up at least a little. Everyone should know that in cold temperatures it is not recommended to start your car if you just want to go to the convenience store.

    Just warm your damn cars. It's not complicated.
     
  11. Oct 17, 2010 at 12:38 AM
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    Its hard to drive it if you dont start it though
     
  12. Oct 17, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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    He's from Quebec, just let it go.
     
  13. Oct 17, 2010 at 1:15 AM
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    I have it in drive before the starter stops spinning. Never had issues.
     
  14. Oct 17, 2010 at 3:43 AM
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    All I have say is wow. Its not goting to hurt your truck to warm it up.when oil gets cold it gets thick like molasses now would you rather let the oil become warm and make it easier to lube the engine. Or do you like making your engine work harder.
     
  15. Oct 17, 2010 at 4:11 AM
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    I'm new to the forum....my first post! This seems to be a great site - lots of good information to share. My wife was rolling her eyes when she saw that I was joining a forum that was just about my truck. She just doesn't understand :)

    When I first fire it up, the idle rate seems high to me (maybe around 1500 to start). It slowly will creep down to just above 1000rpm. This is usually the time I let it warm up. The two vehicles I've had in the past idled well below 1000rpm.
     
  16. Oct 17, 2010 at 4:13 AM
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    Once again I will say this-my own personal experience with the 14 vehicles I have owned. Always gave them a warmup. Never had trouble with them. 14 vehicles. I am not saying I am right-I said in my last post maybe I don't need to do th 3-4 minutes it takes for the temp guage to bump. But I will continue doing it because I can't see how throwing a 4000 lb load onto cold moving parts with cold oil and a cold tranny is perfectly fine. There have been times when I was running late and started off after a startup and the damn truck just feels the way it's lugging that it wanted that warmup. Chris you are a guru here. I am not. You say that doing brakestands and frying a set of tires is perfectly fine and won't hurt your truck in the least-me? I would NEVER do that to my truck. I am just doing what my folks did with their cars and what I have been doing with no bad results to speak of for 33 years so far. Never had an engine crap out on me. My vehicles were always good to me. Thanks but no thanks-MY truck gets the warmup it deserves.
     
  17. Oct 17, 2010 at 4:18 AM
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    I watch the Weather Channel...if Jim Cantore sez it's going to be real cold the next morning, just prior to retiring for the night, I start the truck and let it run overnight, insuring it be hot inside the cab, and the engine is ready for the 3.4 mile trek to the office...in moderately cold temps, I just put hand warmers all over the engine and save gas...Al Gore is angry w/ me for carbon foot print mockery, but I say to him; move to Quebec, where it's OK to be angry and leave yer ride running 24/7:p
     
  18. Oct 17, 2010 at 5:42 AM
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    In warm weather, a couple of minutes. In cold weather, untill the widsheild defrosts. Then I go but drive it easy untill she warms up all the way.

    I have all the scientific evidence I need living right next door to me!

    Two late model sport utes and two late model cars for the older kids. Four different manufacturers, all with modern engines. Each one of them nails the gas out of the neighborhood no sooner than the starter stops spinning each and every time.

    All four cars run like crap and blow smoke at just a few years old.
     
  19. Oct 17, 2010 at 5:45 AM
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    no warm up
     
  20. Oct 17, 2010 at 5:56 AM
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    only warm up i ever do is to heat the inside of the truck to defrost...full blast/full heat/defrost only settings. any other time i just go.
     

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