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'Redneck" lower control arm - LCA Bushing Press

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TacoBow, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. May 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM
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    Nazupag524

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    I'm getting ready to buy an energy suspension control arm bushing kit but I only need the lowers. Does anyone out there need the upper bushings?
     
  2. May 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM
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    i had the same issue on my 2010 tacoma with 85k miles i did the bilstien 5100 and AAL 1.5 rear 1.75 in front and when went to do the alighment it was all froze up so i also used a sawzall to get the LCA off both side were siezed up. I got all new OEM parts both front bushings and rears new bolts cam gears nuts all of it and it was around 350 to 400$ but i didnt want to use aftermarket bushings sence it would have only saved me maybe 20 bucks at most i used heat and air hammer to get them lose with no luck. After I got the LCA's out I just
    set the bushing on fire let them melt and pushed the outer ring out like butter. and when i did the alignment it was cake after
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  3. Nov 12, 2015 at 8:17 PM
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    Old thread but good info!
     
  4. Nov 12, 2015 at 8:25 PM
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  5. Nov 13, 2015 at 7:38 AM
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    It looks worse than it is. It's not too much pressure. The jack is basically acting like a stopper. When heat is applied, the bushing expands and only has one way to go, and that's out! As I recall, @brutalguyracing tried it and it worked really well. I just refound the video again last night and wanted to post it. Probably deserves it's own thread...
     
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  7. Nov 13, 2015 at 8:06 AM
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    I've done it too and it works well. For any concerns of it bending the arms out, when I reinstalled I had to bend the outer tabs in a little, meaning it did not bend.
     
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  8. Nov 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM
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    TacoBow [OP] Intentionally cosmetically correct.

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    The jack method does work well for a bushing that's defiant, but not so much for one that's rusted fast into the LCA.

    Pause the video at 49 seconds and inspect the body of that bushing once it releases from the control arm. Smooth and still cylindrical with no gaulded surfaces. Now compare that to the control arm bushing from the salty state of PA seen on page 1.

    Significant difference. The rust on the control arms themselves suggests a southern or later model year vehicle was depicted in the video.

    Not that it's a bad method, but that jack would have simply not prevailed here. Opting for a larger bottle jack or increasing the heat required to free the PA application would have damaged the LCA as nd4spdbh noted. PA corrosion issues often require much more heat than a hobby propane torch can provide. Their primary use here in a garage setting is for soldering or lighting cigarettes. Aside from a new vehicle purchase, a southern vehicle offered for sale is favored in the northern states for obvious reasons.
     
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    Thanks for commenting. I appreciate your thread and OP, very ingenious.

    Why not just just set the bushing on fire?
     
  10. Nov 14, 2015 at 6:44 AM
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    TacoBow [OP] Intentionally cosmetically correct.

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    Setting them on fire is a proven option, one that Burnwithin used -

    I'm thinking his username implies he might carry a lighter.

    Having a garage filled with burnt rubber would have been more like spoiled cabbage and disappointment once the little lady got home. Not a safe move for me at all. I have a vertically challenged wife, 5 foot 1/2 inch and she will remind you of that .05 inch. After 24 years, I've learned not to fabricate any explanation for floating black soot tails that would surely be aloft as she drove into the garage.

    Lighting them up in the driveway would have been equally as precarious, since at that time, we lived next door to the local sheriff. Still, I agree that it is a good option if your location permits and fire safety precautions are observed.
     
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    Probably have the only 2nd Gen with an 8274 in the world.
    Tacobow, how did you remove the lip from the old bushing.

    I used a bottle jack a few removing a few of mine, it did spread the LCA a little but it seemed to spring back with no permanent spread. Thanks for the thread though.
     
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    If I'm looking at the diagram right, I only need 4x part #16 (4819060020 - adjustment cams) and new bushings, if I'm taking the "rip and replace" method. Can anyone confirm that those cams come with all the parts or are there other parts in addition to those that I'll need?
     
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    Here is a variation of the Redneck and bottle jack methods. Essentially, I used a bolt and a coupling nut to press out the bushings.

    For the larger bushing, you need a set of washers with 2 1/8" OD because the OEM washer on the bushing is not wide enough. 2 1/4" & 2 1/2" cups came from a BJ Service kit from Harbor Freight, #60827. 9-inch bolt (grade 8 $18) and coupling nut ($8)is a 3/4"-10 - got them on Zoro. Also get an assortment of 3/4" std and extra wide washers. Need a crescent wrench that opens 2.25". A propane torch may be needed to break the bushings free. Did't take much heat to remove mine; less than a minute for the small one and about 2 min for the large bushing. The large bushing has a smaller ID; so, you need a M12 bolt and assorted washers to press out that bushing (bottom 2 pics). The smaller bushing can accommodate a 3/4" bolt.

    Installing the bushings required a 2.5" ID cup for the large bushing. I'm using a customized cup - It's a standard 2.5" ID 2" long pipe but the inside was smooth out with a lathe to remove the seam. Same pipe is used to remove Moog ball joints, which are wider than OEM.









     
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    This is a great thread! Wish I would have read it last year :pout:
     
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