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Old 02-24-2011, 05:51 PM   #1
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2TR-FE Reliability

i have searched around and cant really find any thing on this.

My Question.

Is the new 2.7 ( 2TR-FE ) as good as the old 2.7 ( 22r )

Just want to know what you guys think.

By the way mine is Stick and it has been great so far.
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:20 PM   #2
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Not as good, but still very good.
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so what is the down side to the 2TR-FE?
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:53 PM   #4
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so what is the down side to the 2TR-FE?
More power.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:09 PM   #5
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Yep 2TR-FE has a bit more power but i think that the weight of the body style of the 2nd Gen offsets any gain. my big thing is will the new 2.7 ( 2TR-FE ) hold up as good and keep on trucken after 300,000 miles like a ton of the old 2.7 ( 22r )
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Yep 2TR-FE has a bit more power but i think that the weight of the body style of the 2nd Gen offsets any gain. my big thing is will the new 2.7 ( 2TR-FE ) hold up as good and keep on trucken after 300,000 miles like a ton of the old 2.7 ( 22r )
I dont see why it wouldnt. Its dam near identicle, sans the VVT-i
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FYI the 22r was never 2.7L


Its a 2.4L
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FYI the 22r was never 2.7L


Its a 2.4L
My bad
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It's a Toyota 4-cyl people.

If you don't think it's reliable enough, please show me a better option you can currently buy new?
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It's a Toyota 4-cyl people.

If you don't think it's reliable enough, please show me a better option you can currently buy new?
THERE WE GO. i was gonna say everyone hates on the newer gen engines. but so far as i can tell, i know mines gonna last awhile and i have heard of 2ng gens well into the 100k mile range.
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The question is not is it reliable than other vehicles, but is it as reliable as the older engine.

http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/truck-talk/128354.htm


I am sure there are more. Sure there are issues with the older engine as well, but yes it is reliable.

These guys talk good about it.
http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83143

I say give it a shot.
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My 06 9th gen corolla 1zz-fe 1.8L had more issues than any other vehicle ive had (rear main @ 15K km - new trans (failed bell housing)@50k KM - white smoke @ 75K km and i traded for a impreza. My 86 camry 3sfe 2.0L ran to 360k km then i snapped the timing belt it was non interference so just threw a new belt in and kept on trucking -->

Sold it to a buddy who drove it for five more years then sold it again, i still see it around.

I personally think the engines built in Japland are higher tolerance and higher restrictions on what gets passed.

But i have high hopes for the Tacoma.

Interesting you should mention. My daily driver is a 1zz-fe 1.8L Matrix, currently with 177k (as in 177,000 miles...we use real units down here...I guess you 'nucks would call it 285,000km) on the clock and NO issues. NONE. Just regular maintenance. And I flogged the fuck out of that car before I got the truck. It's seen a lot of duty out of its class.

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My 86 camry 3sfe 2.0L ran to 360k km then i snapped the timing belt it was non interference so just threw a new belt in and kept on trucking -->
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thanks for the reply's and i like the new engine a lot it was just something i was wondering about all day to day as of now i have almost 15k on my 2.7 manual 4x4.

Question?

Is the 2.7 in the tacoma have a non interference belt thing?
If so what dose that mean?
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Is the 2.7 in the tacoma have a non interference belt thing?
If so what dose that mean?
current Tacoma engines have a timing chain, not belt.

Non-interference means that the valves and cylinder have enough clearance from one another in the cylinder chamber that they will not impact one another and damage one another in the event that the engine's timing is incorrect.

IIRC both current Tacoma engines are interference engines...I know the 1GR six cylinder is. That's just the one of the many prices of squeezing more power and fuel economy out of the same displacement.
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Interesting you should mention. My daily driver is a 1zz-fe 1.8L Matrix, currently with 177k (as in 177,000 miles...we use real units) on the clock and NO issues. NONE. Just regular maintenance. And I flogged the fuck out of that car before I got the truck. It's seen a lot of duty out of its class.

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It's probably going to outlast the other parts of the truck. You know what worries me down the line? That complicated motor/servovalve thingy for the brakes that controls ABS, VSC, TRAC...
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Meh they will start failing and people will start suing as the randomly crash into things.
Neg. There is no fault on the mfr when safety-related components fail due to end of life. When a brake control component goes out of tolerance, the ABS and other warning lights come on. If you ignore the light, keep driving, then crash and sue, Toyota can claim contributory negligence on your end.
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Just to clarify what i posted was not to bash i did in fact love that car. Did a full suspension and tracked on the weekends. And the motor was not stock after the rear mains where done.
Damn, didn't know people raced Corollas, of all things...
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Damn, didn't know people raced Corollas, of all things...
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lol then i gave up the fwd all together, just a bike and a taco...

Figured it out eh?
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