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Old 03-15-2011, 11:44 PM   #1
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Hello everyone I know this has been posted before but if anyone could help with everything I need to do this or anyone that has done it before could you please help thank you. I have a 2006 double cab 2wd sport it's all stock
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Step 1. Go to a dealer
Step 2. trade in for a 4x4

You could at least give the details of your truck if you're going to ask a question like this.

Or (and this is a big or) you could try searching this forum or over on ttora.com for other threads similar to this.
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OP , everytime this topic comes up , the general concensus is that it can be done , but is not worth it .

Trade in or private sale , and buy a 4x4.
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Step 1. Go to a dealer
Step 2. trade in for a 4x4

You could at least give the details of your truck if you're going to ask a question like this.

Or (and this is a big or) you could try searching this forum or over on ttora.com for other threads similar to this.
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Good business opportunity in south, 4wd conversions for people who went 2wd and regret it
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I'm going to guide you through my SAS, my cost, and my frustration. I will probably convince you to SAS, because it is so utterly amazing. However, it is not easy, and it is NOT cheap.

Most people should stay with IFS. SAS is intended for the extreme off roader. IFS can handle most courses of the SAS, just not as easy, or as well.

Here is a pricing guide that I made so I knew how much money I would be out. I'm giving you the part, where I bought it from, and how much it costed me shipped.

Parts Needed,.....Part Location,.......and Prices

OIL PAN
12101-75060 Pan, Toyota Dealer, $100.00
15104-75020 Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $80.00
15147-75020 Gasket, Oil Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
11494-75010 Plate, Oil Hole, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
91651-60614 Bolts (Oil Hole plate) (QTY: 4), Toyota Dealer, $15.00
00295-00103 FIPG (Form in Place Gasket material), Toyota Dealer, $15.00

STEERING
Reid Racing Ford Knuckles, Parts Mike, $460.00
Hi Steer Arms w/ studs, Parts Mike, $220.00
Tie Rod and Draglink, Sidco 4x4, $155.00
IFS Steering Box 1989-1995 4x4, Ebay, $125.00
Borgeson Steering Shaft 450036, Summit Racing, $75.00
Borgeson 013452 and 014909, Summit Racing, $160.00
Pitman Arm, Parts Mike, $50.00
Kartek 11/32" 29 Spline U-joint, Kartek, $110.00

SUSPENSION
Front Leaf Springs 5", Marlin Crawler,$342.00
FOA Emulsion Shocks (4), FOA Shocks,$552.00
FOA Shocks Charged, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
F/R Ubolt Flip Kits, Parts Mike,$100.00
9/16" Spring Hanger (2), Parts Mike, $34.00
9/16" Shackle Bracket, Parts Mike, $42.00
Shock Bracket Pair (2), Parts Mike,$36.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Front, Parts Mike, $50.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Rear, Parts Mike, $35.00
Spring Perch Set (2), Parts Mike, $30.00
Shock Tower Set, Parts Mike, $36.00


AXLE
Chromoly Right Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $296.00
Chromoly Left Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $267.00
Warn Premium Locking Hubs, Ebay, $80.00
CTM U-Joints, Longfield, $315.00
Front Gears 5.38, Superior Axle and Gear, $176.00
Powertrax No-Slip Front, Just Differentials, $450.00
Powertrax No-Slip Rear, Just Differentials, $450.00
Rear Gears 5.43, Superior Axle and Gear, $208.00
Frame Plating, Ballistic Fabrication, $112.00
Front Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $122.00
Rear Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $90.00
Rear Frame Plates, Domello Offroad, $120.00
D44 4:10 Carrier, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Toy Flange, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


BRAKES
Front Rotors, O'Reillys, $70.00
Front Pads, O'Reillys, $25.00
Front Calipers, O'Reillys, $25.00
F/R Steel Braided Hoses, Summit Racing, $50.00
Brake Adapters, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Brake Fittings, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


MISCELLANIOUS
4.5" 9/16 Bolts (20), Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Stuff, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
Toyota Long Slip Drive Shaft Custom, Sidco 4x4, $100.00

WHEELS
Goodyear MT/R 37/12.5/15R, Craigslist, $700.00
Tire balancing, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
New 5 on 5.5" RimsSidco 4x4, $125.00


FABRICATION
Sidco 4x4 fabrication work, $2,200.00

TOTAL $9,363.00
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Hello everyone I know this has been posted before but if anyone could help with everything I need to do this or anyone that has done it before could you please help thank you
In order for anyone to give you any sort of useful information we need more from you. Like what model truck are we talking about here? Anything already done to it?
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I'm going to guide you through my SAS, my cost, and my frustration. I will probably convince you to SAS, because it is so utterly amazing. However, it is not easy, and it is NOT cheap.

Most people should stay with IFS. SAS is intended for the extreme off roader. IFS can handle most courses of the SAS, just not as easy, or as well.

Here is a pricing guide that I made so I knew how much money I would be out. I'm giving you the part, where I bought it from, and how much it costed me shipped.

Parts Needed,.....Part Location,.......and Prices

OIL PAN
12101-75060 Pan, Toyota Dealer, $100.00
15104-75020 Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $80.00
15147-75020 Gasket, Oil Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
11494-75010 Plate, Oil Hole, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
91651-60614 Bolts (Oil Hole plate) (QTY: 4), Toyota Dealer, $15.00
00295-00103 FIPG (Form in Place Gasket material), Toyota Dealer, $15.00

STEERING
Reid Racing Ford Knuckles, Parts Mike, $460.00
Hi Steer Arms w/ studs, Parts Mike, $220.00
Tie Rod and Draglink, Sidco 4x4, $155.00
IFS Steering Box 1989-1995 4x4, Ebay, $125.00
Borgeson Steering Shaft 450036, Summit Racing, $75.00
Borgeson 013452 and 014909, Summit Racing, $160.00
Pitman Arm, Parts Mike, $50.00
Kartek 11/32" 29 Spline U-joint, Kartek, $110.00

SUSPENSION
Front Leaf Springs 5", Marlin Crawler,$342.00
FOA Emulsion Shocks (4), FOA Shocks,$552.00
FOA Shocks Charged, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
F/R Ubolt Flip Kits, Parts Mike,$100.00
9/16" Spring Hanger (2), Parts Mike, $34.00
9/16" Shackle Bracket, Parts Mike, $42.00
Shock Bracket Pair (2), Parts Mike,$36.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Front, Parts Mike, $50.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Rear, Parts Mike, $35.00
Spring Perch Set (2), Parts Mike, $30.00
Shock Tower Set, Parts Mike, $36.00


AXLE
Chromoly Right Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $296.00
Chromoly Left Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $267.00
Warn Premium Locking Hubs, Ebay, $80.00
CTM U-Joints, Longfield, $315.00
Front Gears 5.38, Superior Axle and Gear, $176.00
Powertrax No-Slip Front, Just Differentials, $450.00
Powertrax No-Slip Rear, Just Differentials, $450.00
Rear Gears 5.43, Superior Axle and Gear, $208.00
Frame Plating, Ballistic Fabrication, $112.00
Front Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $122.00
Rear Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $90.00
Rear Frame Plates, Domello Offroad, $120.00
D44 4:10 Carrier, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Toy Flange, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


BRAKES
Front Rotors, O'Reillys, $70.00
Front Pads, O'Reillys, $25.00
Front Calipers, O'Reillys, $25.00
F/R Steel Braided Hoses, Summit Racing, $50.00
Brake Adapters, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Brake Fittings, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


MISCELLANIOUS
4.5" 9/16 Bolts (20), Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Stuff, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
Toyota Long Slip Drive Shaft Custom, Sidco 4x4, $100.00

WHEELS
Goodyear MT/R 37/12.5/15R, Craigslist, $700.00
Tire balancing, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
New 5 on 5.5" RimsSidco 4x4, $125.00


FABRICATION
Sidco 4x4 fabrication work, $2,200.00

TOTAL $9,363.00
Ok but you have way too many things here. Those items are "nice to have" and not necessary. Plus this is going to solid axle.

If OP is converting 2wd pre-runner to 4wd IFS he will need much less. I doubt it would cost him more then $3000 to get 4wd and everything would be bolt on. so potentially with out the installment cost.

If he goes to one of the "pull yourself" junkyards he can probably walk away with everything he needs in one day.
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Good business opportunity in south, 4wd conversions for people who went 2wd and regret it
Yeah, just open a dealership that sells 4x4's and save yourself money from having to pay a mechanic to do the conversions.
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Ok but you have way too many things here. Those items are "nice to have" and not necessary. Plus this is going to solid axle.

If OP is converting 2wd pre-runner to 4wd IFS he will need much less. I doubt it would cost him more then $3000 to get 4wd and everything would be bolt on. so potentially with out the installment cost.

If he goes to one of the "pull yourself" junkyards he can probably walk away with everything he needs in one day.
Not mine, just the first post from that thread. I'm not even going to pretend to know what's involved with a SAS. But, if you're going to go through the hassle of adding 4wd to a 2wd truck, you might as well have a solid axle.

Otherwise, I think you're much better off buying a truck that came with 4wd to begin with. I think you'd be hard pressed to find Toyota parts for $3,000. Not saying it can't be done but you'd have to be creative where you find your parts. Plus your truck will be laid up in the shop for a long time while the work takes place.
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I'm going to guide you through my SAS, my cost, and my frustration. I will probably convince you to SAS, because it is so utterly amazing. However, it is not easy, and it is NOT cheap.

Most people should stay with IFS. SAS is intended for the extreme off roader. IFS can handle most courses of the SAS, just not as easy, or as well.

Here is a pricing guide that I made so I knew how much money I would be out. I'm giving you the part, where I bought it from, and how much it costed me shipped.

Parts Needed,.....Part Location,.......and Prices

OIL PAN
12101-75060 Pan, Toyota Dealer, $100.00
15104-75020 Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $80.00
15147-75020 Gasket, Oil Strainer, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
11494-75010 Plate, Oil Hole, Toyota Dealer, $30.00
91651-60614 Bolts (Oil Hole plate) (QTY: 4), Toyota Dealer, $15.00
00295-00103 FIPG (Form in Place Gasket material), Toyota Dealer, $15.00

STEERING
Reid Racing Ford Knuckles, Parts Mike, $460.00
Hi Steer Arms w/ studs, Parts Mike, $220.00
Tie Rod and Draglink, Sidco 4x4, $155.00
IFS Steering Box 1989-1995 4x4, Ebay, $125.00
Borgeson Steering Shaft 450036, Summit Racing, $75.00
Borgeson 013452 and 014909, Summit Racing, $160.00
Pitman Arm, Parts Mike, $50.00
Kartek 11/32" 29 Spline U-joint, Kartek, $110.00

SUSPENSION
Front Leaf Springs 5", Marlin Crawler,$342.00
FOA Emulsion Shocks (4), FOA Shocks,$552.00
FOA Shocks Charged, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
F/R Ubolt Flip Kits, Parts Mike,$100.00
9/16" Spring Hanger (2), Parts Mike, $34.00
9/16" Shackle Bracket, Parts Mike, $42.00
Shock Bracket Pair (2), Parts Mike,$36.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Front, Parts Mike, $50.00
Shackle Hanger Kit Rear, Parts Mike, $35.00
Spring Perch Set (2), Parts Mike, $30.00
Shock Tower Set, Parts Mike, $36.00


AXLE
Chromoly Right Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $296.00
Chromoly Left Side Axles, Superior Axle and Gear, $267.00
Warn Premium Locking Hubs, Ebay, $80.00
CTM U-Joints, Longfield, $315.00
Front Gears 5.38, Superior Axle and Gear, $176.00
Powertrax No-Slip Front, Just Differentials, $450.00
Powertrax No-Slip Rear, Just Differentials, $450.00
Rear Gears 5.43, Superior Axle and Gear, $208.00
Frame Plating, Ballistic Fabrication, $112.00
Front Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $122.00
Rear Bearing Kit, Superior Axle and Gear, $90.00
Rear Frame Plates, Domello Offroad, $120.00
D44 4:10 Carrier, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Toy Flange, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


BRAKES
Front Rotors, O'Reillys, $70.00
Front Pads, O'Reillys, $25.00
Front Calipers, O'Reillys, $25.00
F/R Steel Braided Hoses, Summit Racing, $50.00
Brake Adapters, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Brake Fittings, Sidco 4x4, $50.00


MISCELLANIOUS
4.5" 9/16 Bolts (20), Sidco 4x4, $50.00
Stuff, Sidco 4x4, $100.00
Toyota Long Slip Drive Shaft Custom, Sidco 4x4, $100.00

WHEELS
Goodyear MT/R 37/12.5/15R, Craigslist, $700.00
Tire balancing, Sidco 4x4, $50.00
New 5 on 5.5" RimsSidco 4x4, $125.00


FABRICATION
Sidco 4x4 fabrication work, $2,200.00

TOTAL $9,363.00

all of witch can be done cheaper by finding junk yard parts
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Not mine, just the first post from that thread. I'm not even going to pretend to know what's involved with a SAS. But, if you're going to go through the hassle of adding 4wd to a 2wd truck, you might as well have a solid axle.

Otherwise, I think you're much better off buying a truck that came with 4wd to begin with. I think you'd be hard pressed to find Toyota parts for $3,000. Not saying it can't be done but you'd have to be creative where you find your parts. Plus your truck will be laid up in the shop for a long time while the work takes place.
Agree when doing Solid axle swap which would be more expensive and requires space/time to get it done.
If OP just wants factory 4wd (which is enough for most) then he can buy parts and get them swapped in his own garage over the weekend with his buddy.
I dont think $3000 is low for going from pre-runner to 4wd.
Biggest ticket items are
TC - less then $700
Front Diff - Less then $500
Cv's - less then $200
4wd - computer - less then $600
Hubs for 4wd - less then $200
Pig tails for front diff and TC - maybe $200
Miscellaneous - $600 (including six packs of beer )
If OP goes to "pull yourself" junk yard he can probably score all above for %50 of price.
Now when trading in vehicle there is usually loss of $3000 right there for dealer to be able to get truck for sale. Then difference in price of 4x4 vehicle.
Not to mention all your mods on the truck lost, and you buying used vehicle that you are unsure off.
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now im a noob, but i'd think u could just go look at a junk yard and fund a taco 4x4 that was wrecked in the back and c how much they'd want. or just pull everything you'd need off of it. just my thought
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:29 AM   #18
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Agree when doing Solid axle swap which would be more expensive and requires space/time to get it done.
If OP just wants factory 4wd (which is enough for most) then he can buy parts and get them swapped in his own garage over the weekend with his buddy.
I dont think $3000 is low for going from pre-runner to 4wd.
Biggest ticket items are
TC - less then $700
Front Diff - Less then $500
Cv's - less then $200
4wd - computer - less then $600
Hubs for 4wd - less then $200
Pig tails for front diff and TC - maybe $200
Miscellaneous - $600 (including six packs of beer )
If OP goes to "pull yourself" junk yard he can probably score all above for %50 of price.
I really want to see someone finally pull this off. Lots of people have talked about adding 4wd using bolt-on parts taken from another parts truck but has anyone pulled the trigger and moved forward with it? Labor would be the biggest variable. If you can do it yourself, your truck will end up being laid up for a decent amount of time or if you pay someone, it'll be expensive but probably a lot quicker.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:32 AM   #19
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If going for a "factory-like" 4wd, best bet is probably to find a junkyard and salvage all the major components or buy a crashed 4x4.

Edit: must be a good idea
Thats exactly what I was saying. Some junkyards have sales like $500 for all you can carry out.
I can carry TC, front diff, computer, wiring. If not I would hit a gym month before to do bench pressing and carry half of the truck on me.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:34 AM   #20
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hmm... ive been tempted with a SAS on my truck...
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