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Old 04-22-2013, 01:35 PM   #1061
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Update for anyone interested. I replaced my differential bearing with the ECGS bushing and then a u-joint. I still haven't fixed my problem.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:33 AM   #1062
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I have a similar vibration at 65-70 as well. I too have the bushing installed and have a 3" ToyTec lift. Tried everything I could think of to eliminate the vibe, no luck. It is certainly worse when the weather is cold, sub-zero temperatures. When the weather is warm, I don't notice it at all. That in itself makes me think that it is a lubrication issue. At cold temperatures the gear oil is thicker and takes longer to start doing it's job. When the diff warms up, it gets better.

Things I have tried:

1. Tire balance - I had the problem with the factory wheels and winter tires. When I put my new Method wheels and new tires on, still had the vibe. Tried rotating front to back and back to front with no change.

2. Removed rear drive shaft, took truck for a drive on the highway. Still had the vibe at 65-70, so not a rear drive shaft issue.

3. Took out the front diff drop. No change, so put it back in.

4. Wheel alignment - Still had the vibe. Had another wheel alignment done more recently. I have Light Racing UCA's, so had the wheel moved as far forward as possible to allow more clearance at back of front wheel well. Thought this may have affected the vibe as it realigned the front CV axle a little, for better or worse I can't say. Either way, it didn't affect the vibe at all. Current wheel alignment specs are Caster Left 2.7, Caster Right 2.9, Camber Left 0.1, Camber Right 0.0, Toe Left 0.02 & Toe Right -0.01. Specs seem excellent from what I have read, so I have ruled out wheel alignment.

5. Flushed out front diff and filled with Red Line 75W85 Synthetic fluid. No change, still the same vibe.

With the fact that it is much worse at cold temperatures and only at highway speeds, I have begun to wonder if the bushing has cured the low speed vibe, but introduced a slight vibe at highway speeds when very cold. I must say, the bushing really made a difference for the vibe at lower speeds. I hadn't driven the truck in very cold weather prior to the bushing change, so don't know if the vibe was there before or not. It would also have been nice to know if the vibe existed at stock height or not.

I'm at a loss to determine what is causing the vibe at 65-70 on the highway. Perhaps someone else may have some luck and enlighten those of us who are experiencing the same issue. :-)
Does the vibe/noise go away when you turn the wheel (sweeping highway corner)? Mine definitely does but only when I turn right. This vibe is much worse then the one before as the wife actually notices it (takes a lot .. She never noticed the slight low speed vibe before the bushing.
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Does the vibe/noise go away when you turn the wheel (sweeping highway corner)? Mine definitely does but only when I turn right. This vibe is much worse then the one before as the wife actually notices it (takes a lot .. She never noticed the slight low speed vibe before the bushing.
Turning right, and vibe goes away, equals passenger side wheel bearing.
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Turning right, and vibe goes away, equals passenger side wheel bearing.
But the noise is from the driver side FOR SURE? I just replaced the driver side wheel bearing with no change...
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Does the vibe/noise go away when you turn the wheel (sweeping highway corner)? Mine definitely does.
I've tried driving around a curve both left and right but, the noise doesn't seem to change.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:05 PM   #1066
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I've been attempting to contact ECGS since the new year about the 1st Gen fix and have gotten nothing so far. Maybe they were unable to complete this product.
Lol first gens have lock out hubs available for them that's your fix you lucky bastards
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Lol first gens have lock out hubs available for them that's your fix you lucky bastards
I'd rather pay $75 to fix it then get into a $1000+ though.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:47 AM   #1068
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Add me to the list of satisfied ECGS bushing customers. I had it installed on Friday by Slee Offroad in Golden, CO. No more vibe, and the truck finally feels the way it should (only took 15k miles!)
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I have a 2007 Tacoma with a 2.5 inch lift and in 2011 with 46000 miles I took my truck to Toyota to 'fix' the vibration. They ended up replacing the diff to solve the problem; paid for in full by the warranty. Now, within the past month at ~57000 miles (warranty expired), the vibration showed itself again and the search began for me to find a fix.

I purchased the ECGS bushing last week and had it installed today (Thank you Chase & ECGS!!). I also had replaced the carrier bearing assembly on the rear driveshaft. I would get the vibration at 30-40 mph from the stock bushing and at 55-70 mph I would get a different vibration from the carrier bearing.

Now the vibrations are all gone and it's like driving a new truck again! Check out the pic of the stock bushing. Just over 10000 miles on it and it's broken. The pic is small, but from the 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock positions the lip of the bushing is broken off, which provided for a lot of play.

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How much for the bushing tool?
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How much for the bushing tool?
I PM'd you.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:17 AM   #1072
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I have a 2007 Tacoma with a 2.5 inch lift and in 2011 with 46000 miles I took my truck to Toyota to 'fix' the vibration. They ended up replacing the diff to solve the problem; paid for in full by the warranty. Now, within the past month at ~57000 miles (warranty expired), the vibration showed itself again and the search began for me to find a fix.

I purchased the ECGS bushing last week and had it installed today (Thank you Chase & ECGS!!). I also had replaced the carrier bearing assembly on the rear driveshaft. I would get the vibration at 30-40 mph from the stock bushing and at 55-70 mph I would get a different vibration from the carrier bearing.

Now the vibrations are all gone and it's like driving a new truck again! Check out the pic of the stock bushing. Just over 10000 miles on it and it's broken. The pic is small, but from the 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock positions the lip of the bushing is broken off, which provided for a lot of play. Oh yeah, anyone need a bushing tool?

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Check out the pic of the stock bushing. Just over 10000 miles on it and it's broken. The pic is small, but from the 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock positions the lip of the bushing is broken off, which provided for a lot of play.
Glad to hear your problem is solved with the bushing but, the lip of the bearing probably broke by removing the bearing. Mine did the same thing when I replaced it.
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Just ordered my new bushing, can't wait to get rid of this stupid vibration up front.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:20 AM   #1075
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I still have the bushing tool available.....$40 shipped to your door.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:51 PM   #1076
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I still have the bushing tool available.....$40 shipped to your door.


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Did mine yesterday. Havent driven it much because I did UCAs too, so it gets aligned tomorrow. A quick drive around the block seemed much smoother. I'll update after I drive a full day on it.

Skidooman, keep me updated please. I think I have the same issue. Elko isnt too far from me...

I might need some HELP!
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You got it!
I am totally serious! If I had all the tools I might be able to complete the install, but it would probably take forever. I would gladly pay for your time helping me out.
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I am totally serious! If I had all the tools I might be able to complete the install, but it would probably take forever. I would gladly pay for your time helping me out.
I just replaced the needle bearing with oem needle bearing, took me an extra day to extract the bearing with out the ecgs removal tool, if I have to do it again I will get a ecgs removal tool and the bushing.
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