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Old 05-09-2011, 03:05 PM   #41
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Not many on Terra Grapplers huh? I'm running the Nitto Terra Grapplers and they have been excellent so far.
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The RF10's and the Firestones will have almost identical rolling resistance. They will have about 8-15% higher resistance than the Dunlops. What this translates to in MPG is .5 mpg give or take. How do I know this? I own a "Town Fair Tire" shop in New Hampshire and know my shit about tires. Its what I do. The Dunlop AT20s are horrible tires there tread depth is very shallow they last 30k miles max, terrible sidewalls, and horrid traction on anything. Go get yourself some RF10's. Awesome tire.

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The RF10's and the Firestones will have almost identical rolling resistance. They will have about 8-15% higher resistance than the Dunlops. What this translates to in MPG is .5 mpg give or take. How do I know this? I own a "Town Fair Tire" shop in New Hampshire and know my shit about tires. Its what I do. The Dunlop AT20s are horrible tires there tread depth is very shallow they last 30k miles max, terrible sidewalls, and horrid traction on anything. Go get yourself some RF10's. Awesome tire.
Great info. I have to say, I don't know much about tires. I researched for weeks and settled on the RF10's due to their weight (only a pound or 2 heavier than the street tires that came on my sport TRD) and their reviews. I dont have ANY complaints about the tires. I think I made a wise choice.

Macho, would you be able to recommend a comparable tire, MPG wise that might be more aggressive? Like I said, I love the RF10s, but I want something a little more aggressive. Do you know much about Hankook's MT???
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Not many on Terra Grapplers huh? I'm running the Nitto Terra Grapplers and they have been excellent so far.
I had Terra Grapplers on my old Tacoma. I found them difficult to keep balanced and noisy. They wore well, but I didn't drive it too much, as I had a work vehicle as well. Pretty much to the boat ramp and back on Saturdays. I have heard from others that they're a soft tire and wear quickly if you put them on a daily driver.
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BFG AT....stronger sidewall then the duratrac(unless you get kevlar)...nice and quiet as well

Firestone Dest At ..have great ratings and super wet traction
x2 kick ass tire.. .Had them on my old zr2 blazer and now on the taco.. NO complaints.. no road noise and wear pretty nice.. Also very distrinct tire track...
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Is there a mfg column lists the specific rolling resistance for tires?
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Great info. I have to say, I don't know much about tires. I researched for weeks and settled on the RF10's due to their weight (only a pound or 2 heavier than the street tires that came on my sport TRD) and their reviews. I dont have ANY complaints about the tires. I think I made a wise choice.

Macho, would you be able to recommend a comparable tire, MPG wise that might be more aggressive? Like I said, I love the RF10s, but I want something a little more aggressive. Do you know much about Hankook's MT???
Like I said I highly recommend the RF-10's decently aggressive (have a nice pattern on the sidewalls) hook up very well in just about anything for an all-terrain. Have tons of siping for wet slush and rain traction, and wear very well when rotated.

Generally the more aggressive you go with a tire the worse the MPG's are going to be. There are a few factors that come into the play when it comes to MPG with tires. The weight of the tire of course, the tread pattern, and the spacing between lugs. Mud terrains have a wider spaced tread pattern which is great for mud, gravel, sand and fluffy snow. They also look more aggressive obviously.

Some of the better gas mileage performing mud terrains/ultra all terrains that I recommend for someone like you would be: Hankook mud terrains MT R03's, and the Kumho Road Venture MT KL71. These are a little more economical in the MPG department because of their tread pattern, and narrower tread spacing. They both have a lot bark but not alot of bite compared with some other true mud terrains. Something to keep in mind with the MT R03's they dont have any siping in their lugs so they are "more" prone to hydroplaning and do not repell water away from center very well.But they look aggressive, have decent treadware, and handle well on road..
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Is there a mfg column lists the specific rolling resistance for tires?
98% of the time no. It costs them too much money to have a physics guy come in and road force test all their tires. Also many companies do not want to advertise this on their tires because if people knew how radical a difference there actually is betwen tires they wouldn't buy as many. Marketing 101. Especially with gas prices on the rise.

The dunlop AT20's have exceptionally low road force resistance..too bad the tire sucks in all other departments.
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Like I said I highly recommend the RF-10's decently aggressive (have a nice pattern on the sidewalls) hook up very well in just about anything for an all-terrain. Have tons of siping for wet slush and rain traction, and wear very well when rotated.

Generally the more aggressive you go with a tire the worse the MPG's are going to be. There are a few factors that come into the play when it comes to MPG with tires. The weight of the tire of course, the tread pattern, and the spacing between lugs. Mud terrains have a wider spaced tread pattern which is great for mud, gravel, sand and fluffy snow. They also look more aggressive obviously.

Some of the better gas mileage performing mud terrains/ultra all terrains that I recommend for someone like you would be: Hankook mud terrains MT R03's, and the Kumho Road Venture MT KL71. These are a little more economical in the MPG department because of their tread pattern, and narrower tread spacing. They both have a lot bark but not alot of bite compared with some other true mud terrains. Something to keep in mind with the MT R03's they dont have any siping in their lugs so they are "more" prone to hydroplaning and do not repell water away from center very well.But they look aggressive, have decent treadware, and handle well on road..
Again, great information. What about BFG ATs? What are your thoughts on those? I know they're pretty heavy compared to the Hankooks and kind of an unoriginal pick, but I've always loved the tread pattern. How do those affect MPG?
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BFG all terrains were the tire to have a decade ago. They are no longer the best all around all terrain tire. You wont see a difference between the two MPG wise.
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So I think i've settled on the Dynapro ATM's but someone suggested that I change from the p245/75 R16 to the p265/75 R16 I don't know much about tires so I wanted to see what you guys thought about this? Will it hurt my MPG's much? Will that tire fit on my stock rims?
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Again, great information. What about BFG ATs? What are your thoughts on those? I know they're pretty heavy compared to the Hankooks and kind of an unoriginal pick, but I've always loved the tread pattern. How do those affect MPG?
Been running BFG AT's for a good 10 years now - first on my 86 4Runner and now on the 2010 Taco. Great all around tire. Good gas mileage (been getting just under 19 mixed driving this winter), and tread life is amazing. Duratracs are softer rubber and won't last as long. Duratracs are definitely better in snow, but if I air down, I do just fine.
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So I think i've settled on the Dynapro ATM's but someone suggested that I change from the p245/75 R16 to the p265/75 R16 I don't know much about tires so I wanted to see what you guys thought about this? Will it hurt my MPG's much? Will that tire fit on my stock rims?
It will affect your MPG's, but not much. the 265/75 is taller, resulting in the same effect as getting taller diff gears, and they are wider, creating more rolling resistance. And of course heavier. You would not drop much though. The biggest MPG difference will probably come from the more aggressive tread, not the slight size increase.

There are many theories as to if it's better to have a wider or narrower tire. Where I live in north central Maryland, I think a narrower tire is better for the foot or so of snow we usually get all at once and the mud in spring. A narrower tire will help you dig down to solid snow or mud. But if you have 12 feet of snow or sand you are better off staying on top with very wide tires. I have 265/70/17's. Some guys on here have 245/85/16's or something very narrow and tall like that.

Your biggest deciding factor will probably be looks.
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Another vote for duratracs... love mine.
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x10 on the Hankook DynaPro ATM's I have them and they are great on and off road! I have the LT285.
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So I think i've settled on the Dynapro ATM's but someone suggested that I change from the p245/75 R16 to the p265/75 R16 I don't know much about tires so I wanted to see what you guys thought about this? Will it hurt my MPG's much? Will that tire fit on my stock rims?
Heavier the tire the less MPG's... Although going from a 245 to a 265 won't make a heck of a lot of difference on MPG's.
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