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Old 06-22-2011, 12:19 PM   #41
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Then TSBs should not expire. They should be performed on the truck no matter what the age/mileage-- because they are design flaws. They should be tied to the VIN # and performed once on the truck.

The fact is, Toyota doesn't fix recurring problems. Sloppy steering columns and weak rear suspension are two examples that show up on different models year after year (actually decade after decade). Poor frame rust proofing is another.

Unique to the 2nd gen Tacoma-- poorly designed frame at the engine mounts, tinfoil tailgate.

Maybe the models should be cheaper then for the first 3 years after they come out????

Edit: You've made another point-- Toyota is not really a rung above other automakers.
i agree completely! TSBs should be tied to the vin as they ARE technically a recall, minus the safety issue! As for the frame rust issue, I live in Vegas so......I don't get frame rust. I also agree with you on the tailgate issue. That is mearly a "Trying to make the vehicle lighter" thing. Sure it sucks, but then again, every manufacturer is doing it....
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For those of you with trucks beyond the 60mo/60K mi Toyota Powertrain Warranty, I seriously doubt whether the stealer would do the TSB without charge.

There should be no question that the needle bearing in question is a defective part, but Toyota doesn't want to pay labor to update everybody's truck out there, so they issue a TSB with an updated part. (A TSB is not a recall). Any owner who complains about the problem and is under warranty should get the updated part.

I don't see any new TSB's published in TIS yet...
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Get em to the dealer now. The more documented complaints, the better.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:02 PM   #44
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Then TSBs should not expire. They should be performed on the truck no matter what the age/mileage-- because they are design flaws. They should be tied to the VIN # and performed once on the truck.

The fact is, Toyota doesn't fix recurring problems. Sloppy steering columns and weak rear suspension are two examples that show up on different models year after year (actually decade after decade). Poor frame rust proofing is another.

Unique to the 2nd gen Tacoma-- poorly designed frame at the engine mounts, tinfoil tailgate.

Maybe the models should be cheaper then for the first 3 years after they come out????

Edit: You've made another point-- Toyota is not really a rung above other automakers.
wahhh wahhh wahhh. u dont like ur truck with all the tsbs not being covered, everything expiring, u having to pay for repairs out of pocket, asshole's bleeding, no more warranty stop complaining. get a new truck from somewhere else.

u no likey no more, u no buyee next time. u go home now (spoken with horrible chinese accent)
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wahhh wahhh wahhh. u dont like ur truck with all the tsbs not being covered, everything expiring, u having to pay for repairs out of pocket, asshole's bleeding, no more warranty stop complaining. get a new truck from somewhere else.

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(Extended warranties are a waste of money by definition).
I thought that. Bought one on my wife's 2005 Subaru & never had a problem. LOL that was until 8 months and 10k miles before the 7yr/105k warranty expired. She had a total meltdown ... valve guides dropped into cylinders. Required a complete teardown, recondition, and brand new heads. Overall that $1200 warranty saved us about $4500 between the 2 times we had it in there (head failures caused a cascade of sensor failures). Damn glad we bought it now! Will buy one on the truck before the 3yr/36k is up.
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I got the 6yr/60k warranty. I bought my truck new April 2010, and have 25,5-- on it now. That warranty will be up quick!
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I thought that. Bought one on my wife's 2005 Subaru & never had a problem. LOL that was until 8 months and 10k miles before the 7yr/105k warranty expired. She had a total meltdown ... valve guides dropped into cylinders. Required a complete teardown, recondition, and brand new heads. Overall that $1200 warranty saved us about $4500 between the 2 times we had it in there (head failures caused a cascade of sensor failures). Damn glad we bought it now! Will buy one on the truck before the 3yr/36k is up.
As with any warranty, there are isolated cases where this specific warranty pays back, like in your case.
If you, on the other hand, never buy any extended warranties and save that money there is a 99.9% chance that you'll come out ahead, even with the $4,500 cost like in your case. If you now continue buying extended warranties on everything, you are set up to pay way more over time.
There is a reason why these warranties are pushed so hard everywhere. They are a cash cow, and not for you.

BTW, would you have found a way to get things done for less than $4,500 if you would not have had the warranty? I bet you would ...
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wahhh wahhh wahhh. u dont like ur truck with all the tsbs not being covered, everything expiring, u having to pay for repairs out of pocket, asshole's bleeding, no more warranty stop complaining. get a new truck from somewhere else.

u no likey no more, u no buyee next time. u go home now (spoken with horrible chinese accent)
Confucius says "When douche nozzles speak, no one listens. They are too distracted by their foul breath."
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I was denied a diff bearing replacement under warranty due to my Bili5100's set @ 2.5. 3 trips to the dealer and multiple requests to speak to the territory rep who denied the claim got me nowhere. $800 for the needle bearing replacement. Toyota is not very high on my list right now....
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I was denied a diff bearing replacement under warranty due to my Bili5100's set @ 2.5. 3 trips to the dealer and multiple requests to speak to the territory rep who denied the claim got me nowhere. $800 for the needle bearing replacement. Toyota is not very high on my list right now....
Document everything and initiate the arbitration process. Chances are that you will win and you will be refunded your $800. They have to prove that your lift caused it and they're not going to be able to do that I suspect. Not to long ago a member here won in arbitration on a rear diff replacement.
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Interesting. I was told a new part (the front carrier assembly?) would be coming out with the TSB. I've read on here about others who have the differential replaced, only to have it happen again. Does that make any sense Tacobo670?
And I'm one of them. Some have had their differentials replaced 3 times before they got one that lasted. Some have had them go bad before 20K miles without a lift. I'll still be surprised if they really do come out with a TSB. The first front diff replacements began back in 2006 and 5 years later they're going to come out with a TSB? We'll see if it really happens. Too bad it wouldn't be a recall, then I'd get a refund.
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And I'm one of them. Some have had their differentials replaced 3 times before they got one that lasted. Some have had them go bad before 20K miles without a lift. I'll still be surprised if they really do come out with a TSB. The first front diff replacements began back in 2006 and 5 years later they're going to come out with a TSB? We'll see if it really happens. Too bad it wouldn't be a recall, then I'd get a refund.
I agree. I don't think the TSB will happen. I have yet to fix b/c it's not getting any worse that I can tell... Hopefully the TSB does come out and I drop my truck to stock and bring it in
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:18 PM   #54
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Confucius says "When douche nozzles speak, no one listens. They are too distracted by their foul breath."
so, wat ur saying is confucius had halitosis? or u got halitosis?
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This is the final observation I'll make in this thread. Semi-literate morons like yourself are why I avoid the dealership service department.
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You guys that are having problems, could you explain what your truck is doing. I'm curious if this is the same problem that I'm having. Thanks
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My front diff is making noises for the past 20k miles but it is not constant. There is no consistency at all. Sometimes it can go for a days without making noises. Sometimes it will make noises in the morning on the way to work and no noise in the afternoon on the way home from work. Sometimes it's the other way around, no noise in the morning but noise in the afternoon. I brought it to the dealer and it's hard for them to duplicate due to the inconsistency.

I did some research and the bearing and seal are pretty cheap, about $20. It is relatively an easy job if you know how to use the right tools. I'm going to replace the bearing when I have time in a couple of months.
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My front diff is making noises for the past 20k miles but it is not constant. There is no consistency at all. Sometimes it can go for a days without making noises. Sometimes it will make noises in the morning on the way to work and no noise in the afternoon on the way home from work. Sometimes it's the other way around, no noise in the morning but noise in the afternoon. I brought it to the dealer and it's hard for them to duplicate due to the inconsistency.

I did some research and the bearing and seal are pretty cheap, about $20. It is relatively an easy job if you know how to use the right tools. I'm going to replace the bearing when I have time in a couple of months.

I don't really notice a noise but I have a bad vibe in the steering wheel that is very inconsistent, much like the noise inconsistency you are describing. Do you think my steering wheel vibe is related to the front diff problem?
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My front diff is making noises for the past 20k miles but it is not constant. There is no consistency at all. Sometimes it can go for a days without making noises. Sometimes it will make noises in the morning on the way to work and no noise in the afternoon on the way home from work. Sometimes it's the other way around, no noise in the morning but noise in the afternoon. I brought it to the dealer and it's hard for them to duplicate due to the inconsistency.

I did some research and the bearing and seal are pretty cheap, about $20. It is relatively an easy job if you know how to use the right tools. I'm going to replace the bearing when I have time in a couple of months.
Mine is worse when its cold. In 100+ heat I can barely notice it.
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I don't really notice a noise but I have a bad vibe in the steering wheel that is very inconsistent, much like the noise inconsistency you are describing. Do you think my steering wheel vibe is related to the front diff problem?
If you put it in 4hi and it goes away, then it's your front diff. If not, then something else is wrong.

When mine does make noises it goes away when I put it in 4hi.
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