Has anyone Changed Their Gearing??

hashemg · 10-09-2008, 06:43 AM

Hi Everyone.

When it comes to 2nd Gen Tacomas i'm kind of a Noob and I want to regear my Diffs.

my Stock 4.10 Gears do not like my 33X12.5 inch Tires and neither does my wallet (Gas Milage)

But with all the reading i have done, i havn't seen anyone on this forum or Toyotanation that has talked about regearing. I know the 6 cyl has pleny of power to push my 33's but the 4 stuggles.

I have worked with people on toyota pickups and first gen Tacomas regearing to 5.29. but again havn't see ne thing on 2nd Gen

Is there any company out there that sells new gearing for 2 gen's???

I am never planning on going bigger than a 33" (unless they come up with a solid Axle Swap Kit hahaha

Therefore i only need 4.56 or 4.88

does anyone know of a reliable company that sells these. thank you in advance for your attention to this. it helps out Alot.

Pat · 10-09-2008, 07:54 AM

4.56 would be the best. Othwerwise if you went with 4.88 and drove on the highway alot your gas milage would go to crap. But, you would see a definite power increase.

hashemg · 10-09-2008, 08:15 AM

Yea i Know 4.56 would be perfect for my 33's

But I havn't seen them...are the thrid members the same between first and second Gen's??

USMCBulldog · 10-09-2008, 08:50 AM

Can you guys explain the gearing thing to me? I am lost when it comes to how different gearing ratios effect power and gas mileage... Thanks in advance...

1-3-2-4 · 10-09-2008, 09:15 AM

This is a decent explanation: http://www.datsuns.com/Tech/tech_gearing.htm

Krookz · 10-09-2008, 09:18 AM

I thought about it, the more I searched and talked to people it was easier not to change it. The 6cyl had enuf power that I didnt really gain too much, so I didnt care. My main reason was getting the speedo back to stock... people swore changing the gearing would fix it, wasnt to sure about all that.

Here's one set of diffs for the 05+ tacos, there was a company making them extended so you didnt need to change the pinion flange, but I cannot find the site.

http://allprooffroad.com/05tacomadri.../05tacomagears

USMCBulldog · 10-09-2008, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-3-2-4

This is a decent explanation: http://www.datsuns.com/Tech/tech_gearing.htm

Awesome! Thanks!!!!!

1-3-2-4 · 10-09-2008, 09:36 AM

No prob. I was going to explain it myself but figured someone else already has. Word...

hashemg · 10-09-2008, 09:44 AM

Ohh wow all pro did have gearing a couple of months ago......yea for the v6 the engine has enought power to pull 33's even wiht the 3.96 gearing. but the 4 banger has a touger time. its not gas that i'm worried out...its about gain my full 159 HP Back and being able to rock crawl

Krookz · 10-09-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashemg

Ohh wow all pro did have gearing a couple of months ago......yea for the v6 the engine has enought power to pull 33's even wiht the 3.96 gearing. but the 4 banger has a touger time. its not gas that i'm worried out...its about gain my full 159 HP Back and being able to rock crawl

They did, it was just listed under the FJ. Same thing

hashemg · 10-09-2008, 10:09 AM

Fronts are expensive huh??? and then u have to pay someone to install them....wonderful haha

RicnDenver · 10-09-2008, 10:53 AM

heres another chart:
http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartable.htm

BTW, I have a 3.4 auto with 33s and Im running 4:88s

Krookz · 10-09-2008, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashemg

Fronts are expensive huh??? and then u have to pay someone to install them....wonderful haha

You can do it yourself if your comfortable dropping the front diff. If you lift it yourself, you've already done it once :P

silverback07 · 10-09-2008, 02:36 PM

Give these sites a look. FTIW I had justdifferentials give me a quote on a front ARB, 4.56's and install kits. Very reasonable. Just need to pull the trigger on it.

http://www.eastcoastgearsupply.com/

http://www.justdifferentials.com/

hashemg · 10-10-2008, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krookz

You can do it yourself if your comfortable dropping the front diff. If you lift it yourself, you've already done it once :P

No i'm not talking about dropping the Diff......i'm talking about switching the gearing......$500 is not a complete diff...thats just the gearing....a complete diff runs about 900-1200 bucks

hashemg · 10-10-2008, 06:45 AM

umm yea so with all pro its gonna cost me over $1200...i think i'm gonna pass and wait a little bit hahaha til there are mor companies that will compete

hashemg · 10-10-2008, 06:48 AM

http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/diff/tacoma_diff.htm

i think i'm gonna go with marlin crawler...they're prices are way more reasonable and i know they have quality products

Krookz · 10-10-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashemg

No i'm not talking about dropping the Diff......i'm talking about switching the gearing......$500 is not a complete diff...thats just the gearing....a complete diff runs about 900-1200 bucks

The gears are inside the diff, and it being 4wd you NEED to change it. Unless you want to blow it out as soon as you put it in 4wd.

hashemg · 10-10-2008, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krookz

The gears are inside the diff, and it being 4wd you NEED to change it. Unless you want to blow it out as soon as you put it in 4wd.

Yea....i know...i gotta change the gearing inside the Diff thats what i was saying

Krookz · 10-10-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hashemg

Yea....i know...i gotta change the gearing inside the Diff thats what i was saying

Ok, well your going to have to drop it to do that is what I was saying

10-09-2008, 06:43 AM	#1
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	Has anyone Changed Their Gearing?? Hi Everyone. When it comes to 2nd Gen Tacomas i'm kind of a Noob and I want to regear my Diffs. my Stock 4.10 Gears do not like my 33X12.5 inch Tires and neither does my wallet (Gas Milage) But with all the reading i have done, i havn't seen anyone on this forum or Toyotanation that has talked about regearing. I know the 6 cyl has pleny of power to push my 33's but the 4 stuggles. I have worked with people on toyota pickups and first gen Tacomas regearing to 5.29. but again havn't see ne thing on 2nd Gen Is there any company out there that sells new gearing for 2 gen's??? I am never planning on going bigger than a 33" (unless they come up with a solid Axle Swap Kit hahaha Therefore i only need 4.56 or 4.88 does anyone know of a reliable company that sells these. thank you in advance for your attention to this. it helps out Alot.

10-09-2008, 07:54 AM	#2
Pat Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7344 Location: San Diego Posts: 151 05 PreRunner Access Cab 2005 Access Cab Automatic King Coilvers, 285 BFG Mud's, Moto Metal 951b's 17"	4.56 would be the best. Othwerwise if you went with 4.88 and drove on the highway alot your gas milage would go to crap. But, you would see a definite power increase. __________________ 2005 Tacoma Prerunner TRD Offroad King Coilvers, 1" Fabtech Rear Block, Black TailLights, 285/70/16 BFG Muds, 17" Moto Metal 951b's

10-09-2008, 08:50 AM	#4
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10-09-2008, 09:18 AM	#6
Krookz p00pernickel Joined: Oct 2008, #9749 Location: Richmond, Va Gender: Male Posts: 90 06 Sport 2006 Access Cab Automatic V6 6" Fabtech 20" Diamo Rims 35" Nitto Mud Grapplers K&N and Gibson KC Slimlites	I thought about it, the more I searched and talked to people it was easier not to change it. The 6cyl had enuf power that I didnt really gain too much, so I didnt care. My main reason was getting the speedo back to stock... people swore changing the gearing would fix it, wasnt to sure about all that. Here's one set of diffs for the 05+ tacos, there was a company making them extended so you didnt need to change the pinion flange, but I cannot find the site. http://allprooffroad.com/05tacomadri.../05tacomagears __________________ [DYI Articles] - [Lifting FAQ] - [Glovebox Service Guide] [OEM Repair and Wiring Manuals] http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3128419

10-09-2008, 10:53 AM	#12
RicnDenver Member Joined: Sep 2008, #9564 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 58 99 4Runner 1999 Automatic 2.5" lift, 1" BL, armour, custom bumpers, winch..	heres another chart: http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartable.htm BTW, I have a 3.4 auto with 33s and Im running 4:88s __________________ http://www.6dgr.com/4x4ric

10-09-2008, 08:15 AM	#3
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	Yea i Know 4.56 would be perfect for my 33's But I havn't seen them...are the thrid members the same between first and second Gen's??

10-09-2008, 09:15 AM	#5
1-3-2-4 Squirrel Mincer Joined: Apr 2008, #5944 Location: Ithaca, NY Gender: Male Posts: 131 08 4x4 Regular Cab 2008 Regular Cab Manual 2.7 BHLM, 20% tint, debadged, factory DRL, factory cruise, removed secondary filter, removed first intake resonator, Weathertech mats, A.R.E. CX series cap	This is a decent explanation: http://www.datsuns.com/Tech/tech_gearing.htm

10-09-2008, 09:36 AM	#8
1-3-2-4 Squirrel Mincer Joined: Apr 2008, #5944 Location: Ithaca, NY Gender: Male Posts: 131 08 4x4 Regular Cab 2008 Regular Cab Manual 2.7 BHLM, 20% tint, debadged, factory DRL, factory cruise, removed secondary filter, removed first intake resonator, Weathertech mats, A.R.E. CX series cap	No prob. I was going to explain it myself but figured someone else already has. Word...

10-09-2008, 09:44 AM	#9
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	Ohh wow all pro did have gearing a couple of months ago......yea for the v6 the engine has enought power to pull 33's even wiht the 3.96 gearing. but the 4 banger has a touger time. its not gas that i'm worried out...its about gain my full 159 HP Back and being able to rock crawl

10-09-2008, 10:09 AM	#11
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	Fronts are expensive huh??? and then u have to pay someone to install them....wonderful haha

10-09-2008, 02:36 PM	#14
silverback07 Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008, #7986 Location: Austin Age: 40 Posts: 1,335 07 TRD OR DC 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 2007 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4	Give these sites a look. FTIW I had justdifferentials give me a quote on a front ARB, 4.56's and install kits. Very reasonable. Just need to pull the trigger on it. http://www.eastcoastgearsupply.com/ http://www.justdifferentials.com/ __________________ 2007 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4, Leather OME 886/140, OME Dakars/182, TC UCA, TW CV DS, 285/70/17 KM2, 17x9 XD Enduro's, Spidertrax spacers, Goodridge SS lines Rocktec & AllPro bumpers, Shrockworks sliders, Grillcraft, C2C struts, Full BudBuilt skids, PIAA 510's, HID's, Warn M8000, MP Superline, HiLift Extreme, Oasis On-board Air, Dual Batteries, A-pillar pod w/ Autometer, ScanGauge II, Midland CB w/FireFly, Alpine/MB Quart/ID My Build

10-10-2008, 06:45 AM	#16
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	umm yea so with all pro its gonna cost me over $1200...i think i'm gonna pass and wait a little bit hahaha til there are mor companies that will compete

10-10-2008, 06:48 AM	#17
hashemg Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7097 Location: Eastern MA Posts: 163 08 Black Reg Cab 4x4 2008 Regular Cab Manual 3" Lift, Camburg Coil-Overs and UCA, 3" All Pro Leafs and OME rear shock, 33X12.5R17 Mickey Thompson on teflon coated American racing rims, Black headlight mod, Black taillight mod, tourneau cover, cargo divider, door sil protecors.	http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/diff/tacoma_diff.htm i think i'm gonna go with marlin crawler...they're prices are way more reasonable and i know they have quality products

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