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Old 08-01-2011, 02:09 PM   #1
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lug nut bolts keep breaking

I keep having the problem of the lug nut bolts breaking when Im taking off my wheels. Anyone else have this problem or know a fix.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:11 PM   #2
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breaking off??

like breaking the stud, or the lug nut? pics?
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:33 PM   #3
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Breaking the stud with lug nut still on stud. Got no pic yet. Ill see about one once the truck is done at les schwabs
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This is the purpose of anti-seize. It allows the bolt/nut to accurately tighten down to the required specifications. It also keeps the 2 parts from fusing together with road salt, rust, dirt, and grime. I've NEVER broke a stud on any vehicle since I started using anti-seize and a torque wrench. Do not allow your mechanic or tire shop to use an impact wrench but hand torque down all lug nuts to no more than 95 lbs. You will also notice that your properly balanced tires will not shake if each nut is evenly torqued.
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Use a 4-way wrench or impact wrench. Ratchets, breaker bars, and the factory tool put an angled torque on the stud which will allow for easier breakage.
The proper rated torque stick will properly install lugs with an impact.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:59 PM   #6
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Is anti seize the same as loc tight or what brand anti seize should I get?
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Loctite is the opposite of anti-seize. 3m makes a good caliper grease/antiseize.
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I have same problem..took truck to get tire rotated/ balanced. following week worked on brakes, broke two bolts trying to get em off. they used impact wrench and over torqued the F out of em. wish i had known about this prior. got me new ones now to replace em, maybe this weekend.
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Lugnuts on our trucks the torque is only 83 ft lbs. You really should never use any lubricants like anti seize on them cause it makes it more prone to loosen up .
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Now I'm confused...

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This is the purpose of anti-seize. It allows the bolt/nut to accurately tighten down to the required specifications. It also keeps the 2 parts from fusing together with road salt, rust, dirt, and grime. I've NEVER broke a stud on any vehicle since I started using anti-seize and a torque wrench. Do not allow your mechanic or tire shop to use an impact wrench but hand torque down all lug nuts to no more than 95 lbs. You will also notice that your properly balanced tires will not shake if each nut is evenly torqued.
- Do use Anti-seize. Don't use an impact gun. Do use a torque bar. 95 ft/lbs



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Use a 4-way wrench or impact wrench. Ratchets, breaker bars, and the factory tool put an angled torque on the stud which will allow for easier breakage.
The proper rated torque stick will properly install lugs with an impact.
- Do use an impact gun. Don't use a bar.


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Lugnuts on our trucks the torque is only 83 ft lbs. You really should never use any lubricants like anti seize on them cause it makes it more prone to loosen up .
- Don't use anti-seize. 83 ft/lbs


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Yeah, I would never use an anti seize on a lug nut stud.( More risk of your wheel falling off) You should be fine Getting your wheels off if your torqued down to the proper specifications.
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maalox is poor man's anti seize
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Yeah, I would never use an anti seize on a lug nut stud.( More risk of your wheel falling off) You should be fine Getting your wheels off if your torqued down to the proper specifications.
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Here is what Tire Rack has to say:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=107
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DO NOT, Do not, put anything on lug studs. PB blaster, anti-seize, it's all friction modifiers. Not a good idea on the things that hold your wheels on.

Scrub dirty, rusty studs with a wire brush.

If you keep breaking the studs off in the lug nuts while trying to remove them, I'd have to say that the lugs are cross-threaded onto the studs. Do they get really hard to turn, then break?

Correct Torque is 83 Ft Lbs. (or an orange torque stick used with an air gun) Torque wrench, impact gun, don't matter. 80-83 Ft Lbs.
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If you live anywhere that uses salt on the roads you have 3 options:
Either you have stainless studs, anti-sieze gooped all over the studs, or you snap every stud off when you try to break lug nuts loose. Anti-seize will in no way loosen a properly torqued lug nut. And you shouldn't impact a lug nut on because it tends to cock the wheel sideways and the torques on each lug will be significantly different.
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Les schwabs said 83lbs
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If you live anywhere that uses salt on the roads you have 3 options:
Either you have stainless studs, anti-sieze gooped all over the studs, or you snap every stud off when you try to break lug nuts loose. Anti-seize will in no way loosen a properly torqued lug nut. And you shouldn't impact a lug nut on because it tends to cock the wheel sideways and the torques on each lug will be significantly different.
I drove in Massachusetts for 6 years and never had a problem. My family has lived there for 35 years and no problems with lug nuts.

As stated multiple times above, do not use anti seize. It will not "loosen" the lugs, but it will modify the amount of friction needed to tighten them, causing them to be overtorqued, stressing the threads on both the stud and the lug nut.
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I've never used anti-seize and never broken a stud, but then I rotate my own tires and have never found the need to have them balanced, no need to let someone else screw shit up like it seems has happened here.

Never bother with a torque wrench for lug nuts either, can't overtorque with the oem tire iron.
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