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Old 09-27-2011, 03:10 PM   #1
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Towing question - 2010 without towing package...

We're looking at a 2010, which has the off-road package, but not the tow package. We towed a camper with our '04 Tacoma, which had the towing package. The total load with the camper is around 2K lb. I'm really most concerned with the two oil coolers. Where we camp, there are very long, very steep grades (3rd gear all the way in the old Tacoma). I realize that this truck does have a higher displacement. I don't think the electrical part of the package is that important to us (other than the after-market costs). Anyone think I might have over-heating problems, engine or transmission?
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #2
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Should be fine with 2000 lbs. I would still add a separate tranny cooler if it was me.
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We're looking at a 2010, which has the off-road package, but not the tow package. We towed a camper with our '04 Tacoma, which had the towing package. The total load with the camper is around 2K lb. I'm really most concerned with the two oil coolers. Where we camp, there are very long, very steep grades (3rd gear all the way in the old Tacoma). I realize that this truck does have a higher displacement. I don't think the electrical part of the package is that important to us (other than the after-market costs). Anyone think I might have over-heating problems, engine or transmission?
I don't think overheating is a big concern on these aluminum block engines, but installing a hitch with proper frame support could be an issue.
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I wouldn't hesitate to do it. 2k lbs isn't a lot of weight for the 2nd Gen Tacoma in my opinion. Don't beat on it and it'll do just fine. Obviously supplimental coolers would be ideal but I don't think required at that weight.
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I wouldn't hesitate to do it. 2k lbs isn't a lot of weight for the 2nd Gen Tacoma in my opinion. Don't beat on it and it'll do just fine. Obviously supplimental coolers would be ideal but I don't think required at that weight.
Well, one incline is about ten miles long, and, with my old Tacoma required 3rd gear - pedal to the floor. I think that qualifies as "beating" it. I had suspected that the trans overheating was going to be more a concern than the engine. I think that a number of people have successfully mounted Class 2 or 3 hitches on these vehicles...
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You will not have an issue. I have a Class 3 hitch and have towed 5,000 lbs with it. There was no problem at all. I do have a manual transmission so no cooler needed there.
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Well, one incline is about ten miles long, and, with my old Tacoma required 3rd gear - pedal to the floor. I think that qualifies as "beating" it. I had suspected that the trans overheating was going to be more a concern than the engine. I think that a number of people have successfully mounted Class 2 or 3 hitches on these vehicles...
Nah, the engine will keep itself cool so having the RPM's up isn't that bad. The transmission will 'lock' so it shouldn't be slipping and creating a terrible amount of heat unless you keep pouring the coals to it trying to hold 60 up the hill. Either way, with 2,000 lbs, I wouldn't worry about it, just keep up with the maintenance.
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Nah, the engine will keep itself cool so having the RPM's up isn't that bad. The transmission will 'lock' so it shouldn't be slipping and creating a terrible amount of heat unless you keep pouring the coals to it trying to hold 60 up the hill. Either way, with 2,000 lbs, I wouldn't worry about it, just keep up with the maintenance.
With the '04, I had to pour the coals to it to keep it at 45. That was with a manual, of course. I've owned vehicles with transmission coolers, but I've never installed one. I wonder if there are aftermarket kits available. It's a pretty popular vehicle, after all...
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With the '04, I had to pour the coals to it to keep it at 45. That was with a manual, of course. I've owned vehicles with transmission coolers, but I've never installed one. I wonder if there are aftermarket kits available. It's a pretty popular vehicle, after all...
There are aftermarket kits available. Here's a nice write up from a first gen. If you search transmission cooler, you end up with a bunch of scattered info for 2nd Gens unfortunately. Hayden and Jegs seem to be popular brands though.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/1st...r-install.html
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With the '04, I had to pour the coals to it to keep it at 45. That was with a manual, of course. I've owned vehicles with transmission coolers, but I've never installed one. I wonder if there are aftermarket kits available. It's a pretty popular vehicle, after all...
I installed a Hayden trans cooler in an older car of mine after a trans rebuild. It was dead simple to install, the hardest part was figuring out which was the "supply" and which was the "return" line.
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JKD, does it matter. Wouldn't that just dictate whether you're in line before or after the OE cooler?
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JKD, does it matter. Wouldn't that just dictate whether you're in line before or after the OE cooler?
Yes, and you'll find opinion either way if you search online. If I recall correctly, Hayden's instructions said to put it in the line going from the transmission to the factory heat exchanger (in other words, aux cooler BEFORE the radiator).

Other people say to put it AFTER the factory heat exchanger, thinking it then delivers the coolest possible fluid to the transmission.

My trans guy said it was better to put it in before, since then in cold weather the trans fluid would be closer to engine op temp quicker. He also said the cooler would still provide lots of extra cooling capacity when installed before the heat exchanger.
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