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5.5 quart Engine, 5 quart Oil Jugs

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by kbp68, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. Oct 5, 2011 at 1:50 PM
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    As long as it's between the low and high marks on the dip-stick it's fine. Everytime I checked it the recommended 5 1/2qts slowed up a bit over the high mark. Last oil change I went to 5 1/4qts and it's right on the high mark now.
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  2. Oct 5, 2011 at 4:43 PM
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    I will have you read my post again, I said running more oil in a bigger oil pan. More oil takes longer to get contaminated, bigger pan and with integrated cooling fins in the bottom of it, keeps oil cooler longer.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2011 at 4:47 PM
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    Yes here is your original:

    Less oil is usually not good. Hot rods (fixed) has added bigger oil pans just to hold more oil. More oil running on a bigger size oil pan equals cooler running temperatures.

    Can you show me where the OP asked about adding a bigger oil pan and more oil? If not then the only part of your input was the Less oil is usually not good. Less oil than what, the the recommended 5.5 or less than 4.5 which would be 1 quart low. If it is the 4.5 you are correct if it is the 5.5, you are not.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2011 at 10:16 PM
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    I've always added just the 5 qt jug and, as mentioned, it's always about dead in the middle of the range on the dipstick. I always assumed there was a half quart of oil hanging out somewhere but who knows.
     
  5. Oct 5, 2011 at 10:45 PM
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    Well I just put 5.5 in mine after I let it drain for an an hour and a half. It ended up being too much and I had to let some out. After I got it below the top fill mark when the engine is warm, the truck ran way better. When I had too much oil in it, it was sluggish. Maybe it was just me?:cool:
     
  6. Oct 5, 2011 at 11:00 PM
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    how much time do you have on your hands to let your oil drain for an hour and 1/2? haha 5mins is more than quite enough
     
  7. Oct 5, 2011 at 11:14 PM
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    Hell you could run 6 quarts and be fine. As long as the crankshaft isnt slinging it around you are good yo go. Less oil than recommended is a fail move. Motor oil is a coolant as well as a lubricant.
     
  9. Oct 6, 2011 at 7:44 AM
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    Don't ever run any car above the maximum level marked on the dipstick unless the manufacture has told you to make a change. It can cause engine damage.

    http://www.virginiaengines.com/maintenance.htm
     
  10. Oct 6, 2011 at 8:03 AM
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    I actually buy extra qts every now and then, usually when I need to put more in my classic I will buy an extra for the truck. Keeps from having to spend $ if I decide to do an oil change at an oddball time.....
     
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    No shite? Really? Thanks captain obvious. Since you think it's your business I will tell you, I was busy with a home project at the time, cracked the drain plug and came back to it after working on the home. :cool:
     
  13. Oct 6, 2011 at 9:14 AM
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    Baloney.

    How is it going to get damaged? I'm all ready for this :cool:

    There was zero to back up your ridiculous claim in the link posted. Just Saying:rolleyes:
     
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    hey man you can calm down, my bad, i didnt know that. you just stated in your previous post that you let it drain for that long. and i thought it was like your usual procedure or something.
     
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    Here is some reading for you to do:

    http://www.slkworld.com/ask-dansslk/4221-reduce-oil-level.html
    http://www.ehow.com/way_5908704_do-overfilled-car-oil.html
    http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64967
    http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/engine-oil-overfill-root-my-problems-741313/
    http://www.quora.com/Oil-Changes/Wh...er-filled-and-started-Where-do-I-go-from-here


    Now once you are done reading, please post all the places where overfilling the engine is a benefit to the engine.
     
  16. Oct 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM
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    The crank center line is above the pan rail. Keep trying. I don't have to prove shit. You made the claim it causes trouble. All I see is opinions and folklore.
    crank2_81caf2bd2c8f3631a662e81272e8bde950b51035.jpg
     
  17. Oct 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM
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    You win man. Keep overfilling it up. I'll take the word of folklore from those BMW and MB mechanics that have seen failure. Plus those two guys are car talk that you have shown their ignorance. To the OP there again is no issue with keeping the oil between the two levels Toyota thought best to keep it between. But those engineers need to go to BUZZCUTS University to do it right.

    Also from page 360 from the owners maual: Avoid overfilling, or the engine could be damaged

    Page 396 is capacity

    Oil capacity (drain and refill),
    L (qt., Imp. qt.):
    2TR- FE engine
    With filter 5.8 (6.1, 5.1)
    Without filter 5.1 (5.4, 4.5
     
  18. Oct 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM
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    It's all good. :p Just a little misunderstanding. Didn't mean to come off so abrasive. No I usually don't let it drain that long. However, after all that time, it was still dripping out of the drain plug. I put 5.5 qts in it and it was too full. Next time I will start with adding only 5 qts back and go from there.:cool:
     
  19. Oct 10, 2011 at 12:47 PM
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    ok, to help with this, too little oil = over heat, not enough oil to lubricate parts.
    to much oil slows the rotation of the crank, causing performance issues not to mention all those cool breathers that allow the pressure to stabalize in your heads saturate with oil then throw it thru your intake eventually fouling out your plugs and causing some damage. also the oil pressure will be to high causing pump failure.
    Sooo, the lesson here is keep it on the dip stick, your engine was designed to carry a certain amount of oil for a reason. Unless you change the design, I.E. a new pan or oil cooler, no need to put more than 5.5 in at a time, and make sure its above the fill dot.

    and there is a reason some directions say, 5.5 wet fill and 5.8 dry fill per the Tech data on T.I.S. ( Toyota Informational System)
     
  20. Oct 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM
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    That is meaningless. The pan is open at the top...when you add more oil the level of the oil rises above the pan.
     

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