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Old 10-11-2011, 02:00 PM   #1
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Both my daytime running lights are melting the interior lens on my 09. Went to the dealer and they searched on the computer and found the issue, but said it is a 3 year/36K mile warranty--I have 40K on my rig. So they give me Toyota's 800 # and I just spent an hour with them to have them say that given my loyal customer status bullshit, they will pay for the parts and I can pay for the labor--on a reimbursment basis ($800+ total and they will pay me $589 back).

That is not a bad deal, but they are stock bulbs and I have my Taco serviced at the dealer, so what happened to the 47 point inspection when they service my rig???

I know you guys can help, so give it up before I explode
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:10 PM   #2
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$800 for new headlights

The daytime running lights melting is a known problem. You should lay into them for it to be free. Serious. It happens to every truck eventually.
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There are many threads on this. No one has come up with a reason. My 2010 doesn't have this issue.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:19 PM   #5
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I was thinking my first response will be to just send me the new assemblies and I will install them myself. Then when they poo-poo that let them have it.

Konaborne,
I can't get ebay at work, so how much of the entire light set can I get? It is all one deal, is it not?
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You can buy the entire assembly for 70, and if you seal them up they should be fine. Doesn't take too long to put em in yourself either.

Try make them pay for it though, since it is their problem.


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Both my daytime running lights are melting the interior lens on my 09. Went to the dealer and they searched on the computer and found the issue, but said it is a 3 year/36K mile warranty--I have 40K on my rig. So they give me Toyota's 800 # and I just spent an hour with them to have them say that given my loyal customer status bullshit, they will pay for the parts and I can pay for the labor--on a reimbursment basis ($800+ total and they will pay me $589 back).

That is not a bad deal, but they are stock bulbs and I have my Taco serviced at the dealer, so what happened to the 47 point inspection when they service my rig???

I know you guys can help, so give it up before I explode

That's bull $hit they are being this firm about the mileage. I had the same problem that I didnt notice until around 45K miles and the delaership took care of it under warranty.

They did also tell me that the headlights were $800 new!! (highway robbery)
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:29 PM   #8
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Both my daytime running lights are melting the interior lens on my 09. Went to the dealer and they searched on the computer and found the issue, but said it is a 3 year/36K mile warranty--I have 40K on my rig. So they give me Toyota's 800 # and I just spent an hour with them to have them say that given my loyal customer status bullshit, they will pay for the parts and I can pay for the labor--on a reimbursment basis ($800+ total and they will pay me $589 back).

That is not a bad deal, but they are stock bulbs and I have my Taco serviced at the dealer, so what happened to the 47 point inspection when they service my rig???

I know you guys can help, so give it up before I explode
Another option is to disassemble your current headlights and remove the inner lens that is cracked then you wont have that problem ever again.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:41 PM   #9
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I need to think about what to do, but it sucks that I have to fight them over it or do it myself.
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Last week I did the DTRL mod by jumping the wire from the side marker and utilising the "low" element of the bulb for the DTRL's. I've been reading avout the lens melting and bubbling problem for the last few days and decided to change the bulb to a lower wattage to be on the safe side. I stopped after work at Advance Auto and picked up a pair of 3057A bulbs for $6 total. I liked the spec's on the 3057 because the wattage was lower than the stock 4157 on both the "low" AND "high" element side.

For reference:
The 4157 is 28.5 / 7.5 watts
The 3157 is 26.9 / 8.3 watts
The 5702 is 26.9 / 8.3 watts (also a smaller bulb = further from the lens)
The 3057 is 26.9 / 6.7 watts

For people who have stock relays, any bulb will be better as you will utilize the "high" element for the DTRL's.
For people who modified as I did, the 3057 is the better choice as it's the lowest wattage for the "low" element (the element used for the DTRL's)

Also as a side note:
When I replaced the bulbs this evening, I could hold the 3057 while it was lit in my hand without burning. The same cannot be said of the stock 4157, as it's VERY hot.
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My mom's '05 Highlander did this a few years ago. Told Toyota about it and they didn't do crap. Said she could buy new lights and that was it. Stock bulbs. No idea why it happens.
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The daytime running lights melting is a known problem. You should lay into them for it to be free. Serious. It happens to every truck eventually.
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There are many threads on this. No one has come up with a reason. My 2010 doesn't have this issue.
It seems to be an issues with very few as far as this board shows. If this happens to all Tacoma's with a little time, why have not all the owners of at least the '05 model complained? There are about 6 threads on this.. total.. you could find more posts on which floor mat to buy... doesn't sound like a major issue at Toyota. Shit happens, not need to blow it out of proportion.

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I called Toyota back and said I would pass on their offer and that since it is a known problem with a TSB and I have it serviced by their dealer, they should do something about it.

I don't expect much.
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The daytime running lights melting is a known problem. You should lay into them for it to be free. Serious. It happens to every truck eventually.
The melting DTRL are not an eventuality for every Tacoma , DTRL has been mandatory on every Tacoma sold in Canada since the '05's and I haven't seen this as a prevelant issue here .

It happens , but it's the exception not the rule .
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The melting DTRL are not an eventuality for every Tacoma , DTRL has been mandatory on every Tacoma sold in Canada since the '05's and I haven't seen this as a prevelant issue here .

It happens , but it's the exception not the rule .
o.k. I was just putting 2 and 2 together. If you shop on ebay, nearly every single used headlight has a melted drl.
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Im glad mine came with the DRL delete.....
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o.k. I was just putting 2 and 2 together. If you shop on ebay, nearly every single used headlight has a melted drl.
Really.. ? Find just 3 and post links.

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The daytime running lights melting is a known problem. You should lay into them for it to be free. Serious. It happens to every truck eventually.
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It seems to be an issues with very few as far as this board shows. If this happens to all Tacoma's with a little time, why have not all the owners of at least the '05 model complained? There are about 6 threads on this.. total.. you could find more posts on which floor mat to buy... doesn't sound like a major issue at Toyota. Shit happens, not need to blow it out of proportion.

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43K miles on my truck with most of it added during the day so my DTRLs are on a lot. Not one indication of melting but I haven't checked in a few months.
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Hey, look, 9 assemblies that remind me of my hunks of junk.

Toyota Dealership near me says bring it in, they'll call a manager to look at it and "go from there."

Stay tuned....
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