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Installed All Pro's 3" leaf an they are STIFF!!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Clzay, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Oct 17, 2011 at 12:37 PM
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    Clzay

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    I just installed All Pro's 3" (standard) leaf pack with a set of 5160 Bilstein rear shocks on my 2010 DC Prerunner and man the rear rides stiff like a lifted truck :( Everyone says how soft these leafs are, so I was hoping for something similar to my stock rear leafs w/TSB. But nope these things are actually kinda harsh over bumps, they don't seem to soak up bumps and are a lot stiffer than before. What to you guys think from you experiences with All Pro's rear leafs compared to stock??
     
  2. Oct 17, 2011 at 12:40 PM
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    wow, i'm shocked too. i was debating between the all pro or dakar. i'd like to know as well.
     
  3. Oct 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM
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    I have the Allpro standard pack. They are extremely stiff. Like rattle your kidneys stiff.
     
  4. Oct 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM
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    haha! Sorry to hear glad i'm not the only one who feels this way!
     
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    theres alot of variables, but going from a 4 leaf pack to the Allpro standard 3" leaf pack was not very significant change... but modding no matter what you do will change the ride, usually harsher
     
  6. Oct 17, 2011 at 2:00 PM
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    try putting some weight in the back
     
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    I imagine once they get broken in they will be a little better. I have heard that they are pretty harsh though.

    Fink
     
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    They ride much better with about 300 lbs in the bed
     
  9. Oct 17, 2011 at 2:48 PM
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    Yep I have some weight back there now, but might go back to stock leafs. I want a soft ride like stock, but was tryn to get the rear higher to match my spindle lift up front without running a block. Does anyone make a soft ridding leaf for the rear that has better travel an performance than stock?
     
  10. Oct 17, 2011 at 2:52 PM
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    Take it offroad and break it in.

    If you want it to retain stock ride, keep it stock... if you want it to be an offroad vehicle, then be prepared for the give/take of modifications.
     
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    Just let them break in man there going to be stiff at first. My expos are stiff as hell for about 2 months and then they broke in and are a lot softer.
     
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    If you're adding more leafs it'll never be soft. NEVER.

    You can't have a work truck with a Cadillac ride. Choose one. Seriously...

    I was a little surprised at how stiff the ride was after my lift, but it's one of those things - do you want stock ride height, or do you want a lift? If you want a lift, you're going to sacrifice ride comfort.

    As others have said, they will break in - but don't expect the ride to be as soft as stock or better than stock. You can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.
     
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    You should've gone with some Deaver 12packs those are nice and soft and provide good lift but the are $$$$!
     
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    Dakar's are the same way, they start really stiff then soften up but still retain the lift and they maintain their payload capacity very well, I've had them for almost 3years now and they are perfect right now, still a little stiff but that's normal, offroad they handle great, as good as a moderate 3" lift goes.
     
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    So what about these SoCal people with there "desert style prerunner baja trucks" the back of those trucks are nice and soft. They're running what looks to be similar set-up, 11-12pack leafs and shocks. Nothing to crazy money wise and the back of those truck are soft an smushy. Thats i guess what i was hoping for, but cam nowhere close :(
     
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    i think ur gonna need some better shocks homie! First of all, there is no comparison to LT and anything fairly stock so dont even keep tha thought in your mind that your truck will ride like theirs the way it is! Most LT trucks have a lot better springs and A LOT better shocks with very good valving and tuning to get them to ride like they do! Spend a few grand just on springs and shocks then ask your same question again! All im sayin is you're comparing two things that arent remotely close to eachother! Just listen to some of these folks advice and break those bitches in! ;)
     
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    Yea im gonna leave them on for a little and see if they soften up a bit. I just wasn't expecting them to be this hard, i don't tow a trailer and the only thing i do haul is my dirt bike... maybe i should have gone with another choice. Who makes a softer spring, that'll give me 2-3inches and rides soft like stock? Deaver maybe?
     
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    Wheel them, or wait to break them in OP, every new part is stiff at first. my coils were giving me almost an extra 1/2 inch of lift before they settled


    But as for the post above, and how you talked of the "soft LT springs", those are a different beast. Those full LT guys don't usually put too much weight in the bed, the "soft" springs get great flex but you sacrifice load capacity. IIRC the deavers and a lot of other leaf packs come with heads ups that theyre not meant to be used with loads
     
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    I installed the All-Pro Standard 3" leaf pack about 3 weeks ago paired with a set of 10" travel Fox 2.0 w/ resis from Downsouth Motorsports specifically valved for me and my driving style. The ride is awesome! Driving around town the leafs are defintely stiffer than stock, turning in to parking lots aand such you can feel every uneven spot. However, at speed these leafs with the Fox 2.0 are amazing, theyve soaked up way more than i though they would. I got a chance a few weeks back, while working recovery, to drive on part of the race course at the Texana Ranch after the Chupacabra 300. At one point, in order to get back to the main camp, we had to drive on the roughest wasboard road ive ever seen/felt in my life, the rear end felt like it was floating. The front end was bouncing quite a bit, but thats another story.
     
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    Im going to get some in the near future.
     

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