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Old 12-23-2011, 05:04 AM   #1
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Thinking about 4 Cylinder 4x4.. Your opinion needed

I currently drive a 2002 GMC Sierra reg cab long box 2wd with the 4.3 V6. Its a big truck with a small engine and won't win any races. However, I now have three kids so the three seater won't work anymore. I use the truck as my daily commuter (70 km a day- highway) to drive back and forth to work.
I need a truck with at least 4 seats and that will get the best mileage. I would like a 4wd and it seems that a Tamcoma Access Cab 4x4 with the 2.7L 45 cylinder fits the bill.
My question is with power. My current truck is pretty gutless so I am used to a slow vehicle. It gets on average 16 mpg driving on pretty level ground. Do you think I would disappointed with the power of the 4 cylinder Tacoma, moving to it, from the V6 Sierra? Anyone have experience with both of these trucks?
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Drive them both.In a access cab the 4 cyl will only get about 2 or 3 more mpg.The heavier the truck the more it drags down mpg and power.
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Welcome to Tw.

I'm sure others will chime in, though from my understanding the 2.7 does a fair job pushing the doublecab.
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I have no power concerns in my '07 4X4/5spd/4cyl AC. 5th gear has no torque...sometimes have to shift to 4th uphill or passing, but that doesn't bother me.

How old/big are your kids? There really isn't much room in the back of my Access Cab, but it's rarely used for passengers. One time my son borrowed it for a 4 hour trip (each way). His girlfriend's 8 yr old brother rode with them in the back seat .... my son said the kid was complaining and asking to swap to the front about 45 mins into to the trip. Might have something to do with the back rest being the back wall of the cab (straight up and down w/ no recline). Okay for short trips around town, I guess.

Might want to consider the double cab ... someone else will have to chime in on how the 4cyl does in that configuration.

FWIW

EDIT: BTW I average 21-22 MPG; sometimes a little less in winter--and sometimes a little more in summer. That's about 70% hwy and 30% city (on Air Force Base).
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Your gonna want a double cab if you plan on having people in the back seats. I love my truck for work but if I was to get a tacoma for the family it would be a double cab short bed V6 six speed.
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I have no power concerns in my '07 4X4/5spd/4cyl AC. 5th gear has no torque...sometimes have to shift to 4th uphill or passing, but that doesn't bother me.

How old/big are your kids? There really isn't much room in the back of my Access Cab, but it's rarely used for passengers. One time my son borrowed it for a 4 hour trip (each way). His girlfriend's 8 yr old brother rode with them in the back seat .... my son said the kid was complaining and asking to swap to the front about 45 mins into to the trip. Might have something to do with the back rest being the back wall of the cab (straight up and down w/ no recline). Okay for short trips around town, I guess.

Might want to consider the double cab ... someone else will have to chime in on how the 4cyl does in that configuration.

FWIW

EDIT: BTW I average 21-22 MPG; sometimes a little less in winter--and sometimes a little more in summer. That's about 70% hwy and 30% city (on Air Force Base).
^ what this guy said. If you have peoole who will actually ride in ur vehicle, the 4 door is a must. The access cab has absolutely no rokm and is extremely uncomfortable. The only reason I got it was becausr no one rides in my truck besides me,.my gf and.the.dog.
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Another thing to consider is that the 4cyl really does not get much better AVERAGE mpg than the 6. For me, it was worth getting the DCSB with a 6cyl, taking a few mpg loss, and having the power when I need it.
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Also, contrary to what you might think, the manual gets worse mpg than the automatic, at least on the v6, due to the gearing. I've got a double cab v6 automatic and it works better as a family car than my Audi a4 avant did.
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I have no power concerns in my '07 4X4/5spd/4cyl AC. 5th gear has no torque if I let the RPMs drop below 2300 (+/-)
Fixed.

When you're running 65 MPH and faster you're in the power band. You don't want to hit hills too slow in OD, no matter what your engine is.
I am still amazed at how it holds 5th in cruise, 65 +, in moderate grades.
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Get the DC with a 6cyl. You won't regret it. I know because I have one.
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Also, contrary to what you might think, the manual gets worse mpg than the automatic, at least on the v6, due to the gearing. I've got a double cab v6 automatic and it works better as a family car than my Audi a4 avant did.
This only pertains to the V6 - 6 speed (Getrag) and I don't think that's on the table here.
It is an unusual phenomenon.

FYI, the 5 speed (Aisin) has different ratios.
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I traded my Beastly 4x4 Dodge Ram 1500 QC on Halloween for my 4x4 DC Taco and I've never looked back in regret.

My Ram and some torque but my Taco would beat it off the line I'm sure, it's dang peppy and lighter. The v6 doesn't get much worse MPG than the 4cyl, esp. if you drive it easy. I'd say go for the bigger engine and you'll have it when you need it.

I looked at the access cab initially but I'm personally glad I got the DC instead.
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Fixed.

When you're running 65 MPH and faster you're in the power band. You don't want to hit hills too slow in OD, no matter what your engine is.
I am still amazed at how it holds 5th in cruise, 65 +, in moderate grades.
You're right ... that's the equation (RPM). Traffic + a more than moderate grade is when I have to down shift (one particular hill on my commute). If I push it up around 2500 RPM before I hit the grade it'll hold speed all the way up without the down shift.
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Another thing to consider is that the 4cyl really does not get much better AVERAGE mpg than the 6. For me, it was worth getting the DCSB with a 6cyl, taking a few mpg loss, and having the power when I need it.
I don't buy this at all.
I can run hard, 75-80 and still be in the 20's.

With a raw egg between your foot and the throttle most can't touch the 20's with the V6.

Book it.
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You're right ... that's the equation (RPM). Traffic + a more than moderate grade is when I have to down shift (one particular hill on my commute). If I push it up around 2500 RPM before I hit the grade it'll hold speed all the way up without the down shift.
4th is one to one with the engine. It's the power gear for pulling highway grades with a load. Not a sin to use it with any engine/transmission combo.
It's when you have to drop to third, that there are some power issues.
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For the OP, I'm not sure I'm on board with the DC, auto and 2.7
I like the 2.7/manual/access because I control the shift points.

A DC full of kids and dogs (and perhaps pulling a tent trailer) ? I would probably lean toward V6 or just go full size since fuel mileage is similar.
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well if power is a concern, then obviously go with a 6. but if you'd like to save gas, go with the 4. the 4 gets the job done and definitely get the DC like everybody else said since you have a family that will need to easily get in and out
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I drive uphill across mountain passes quite a bit and regret getting the 2.7L. However, if you are used to a big truck with little power and don't mind, the 2.7L may work well for you.

Also, I agree with what others said about taking a look at a double cab. Fitting three kids in the back seat may be a struggle....
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