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Load leveling air bags for '12 AC 4X4 V-6

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by helibear, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:12 AM
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    Sure looked like it to me.;)
     
  2. Jul 17, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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    I have Airlift bags with the controller on mine and they bolt on, no drilling required. I've had them 3 years now and they work very well. The only downside is they're bolted top and bottom so down travel is limited.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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    Nope, I didn't, just saying its possible if you want to.:cool:
     
  4. Jul 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM
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    Wow, Landphil... Don't think I ever want to see that.

    Kidding aside, putting a T-joiner on for both bags is a sweet idea. Not having to go back and forth between the valves checking and re-checking to even it out sounds pretty good. But how would that work mathematically for PSI? Double the pressure for half the psi in both bags? 30 PSI means 15 in each bag? Or what?
     
  5. Jul 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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    The bags need be separated to keep air from one bag going into the other during cornering or uneven loads.
     
  6. Jul 18, 2012 at 5:45 PM
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    Got it. Makes even more sense. Thanks!
     
  7. Jul 18, 2012 at 6:24 PM
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    Those are good reasons to keep them separated. But teeing them together gives better traction on uneven surfaces. Both ways are approved by Firestone as laid out in the installation instructions. I know, who reads instuctions, right?:rolleyes:

    If teed together, setting at 15psi means both bags get 15 psi, no math involved.:)
     
  8. Aug 3, 2012 at 11:43 PM
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    I'm finally ready to install the bags, but does anyone have any pics of where they installed the inflation valves? Not really diggin' the idea of drilling holes, but I figured someone has more creativity than me... :confused:
     
  9. Aug 4, 2012 at 4:26 AM
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    Hindsight being 20/20, install them vertically behind the latch pin if you do this. I can't reach the inside valve without taking the cap off.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Aug 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM
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    On my 06 I had them separate and now on my 12 I have them tee'd.

    I think the ride is a little better with them tee'd but it is not as stable. Even with it tee's it is still a lot more stable than stock. With them separate its like a heavy duty sway bar for the rear. If you have heavy loads going around a corner it does not lean out at all.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM
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    I have the firestone ride rite installed with the self leveling feature its Great when towing it pumps up the rear to level them back down to normal when no load on the rear got the bags from a TW member and the compressor kit from a local dealer less than $400 invested Love it
     
  12. Aug 4, 2012 at 8:07 AM
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    I had Airlift bags on my first gen for 6 or 7 years, they worked great, no issues and no leaks.

    I would routinely run 100psi in them to level the truck when I would use my slide in camper, no issues at all.
    I probably had over 200,000 km's on the bags with over 20,000km's with them at 100psi with the camper.

    The Firestones seem more popular on here, if I ever install them on my 2nd gen, I would have to look at the way they both install to see which one is better but I would consider both.

    Shawn
     
  13. Aug 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM
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    Great idea for access! Thanks. Feeding them through the plastic wall sounds great, and gives me a few more ideas for mounting them near the bumper.

    Anyone else have pics of mounting the valves near the back of the bed/bumper?
     
  14. Aug 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM
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    Whats this self leveling unit ye speak of?

    What brand is it?

    I have not see an automatic unit yet. I have seen a wired and a wireless ones but they are manual.
     
  15. Aug 5, 2012 at 8:14 AM
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    [​IMG][​IMG]Mine are placed around the license plate(circled in red ;))

    I like them there very accessible for airing them up and really not too noticeable.
     
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    this is where i put the [​IMG]air valves
     
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    Personally I would tee them together with a valve in one side to isolate it.. open it for easy filling/equalizing. Close it to increase stability while cornering.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2012 at 3:51 PM
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    Exactly what I intend to do after I install onboard air and tie them in with a regulator and gauge. For now mine are on separate schraders between the license plate lights and the plate, one on either side.
     
  19. Aug 19, 2012 at 6:00 PM
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    I just installed the firestone air bags in my 2009 DC TRD today. The reason I installed them is that i pull a 27' holiday trailer with it and even with a weight distribution hitch I felt it was pulling the back end down more than I liked. Before I hook up and take off with my trailer I was wondering if you need to inflate the air bags to the desired pressure before hooking up the trailer or is it safe to hook up the trailer and then inflate the air bags? It seems like it would be a lot of screwing around having to set the pressure in the air bags before hooking up the trailer. I still plan on using the weight distribution hitch.
     
  20. Aug 19, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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    I always loaded my truck first, then added air to each side to bring the truck up level.
    With my slide in camper, I would typically run 100 psi on the drivers side and 80 psi on the passenger to level the truck.

    With a trailer you could probably run the same pressure on both sides.

    Shawn.
     

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