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Old 02-23-2012, 06:26 AM   #1
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ABS rant

Over the last few months I've had 3 life threatening incidents from what I believe is/was the cause of ABS engaging.

Event #1- driving (after just making a right) down a hill and hit a ice patch. -ABS engaged and steered me into oncoming traffic.

#2-this past weekend on our way up a one way long curvy hill ABS engaged and sent me into the other lane

#3-on the way down that same road it engaged and again sent me into the other road.

Not to mention all of the times that I make a turn on slush and the engine brakes are applied thus causing me to almost come to a complete stop while traffic is right behind me.

If the ABS mod is done will the dash light come on? Who else is experiencing this? Thoughts?
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Quick fix is to remove fuse #42 (50amp ABS). Light will come on but you'll stay alive.

This is what I did.

Oh, beware, you'll have some future post here that will tell you that you drove "too fast". Or, saying that without ABS, you'll have same effect. Be prepared.
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what you're describing is a combination of ABS/ TRAC issues. I drive pretty much all the time with the truck in auto LSD mode as I've had similar experiences trying to make a turn on a wet road only to find that the Trac system cuts engine power leaving me sitting in the middle of an intersection with cars heading for me instead of me spinning and making it through the intersection...
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:28 AM   #5
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what you're describing is a combination of ABS/ TRAC issues. I drive pretty much all the time with the truck in auto LSD mode as I've had similar experiences trying to make a turn on a wet road only to find that the Trac system cuts engine power leaving me sitting in the middle of an intersection with cars heading for me instead of me spinning and making it through the intersection...
Sounds like me. Will the ABS mod eliminate this?
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:29 AM   #6
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Quick fix is to remove fuse #42 (50amp ABS). Light will come on but you'll stay alive.

This is what I did.

Oh, beware, you'll have some future post here that will tell you that you drove "too fast". Or, saying that without ABS, you'll have same effect. Be prepared.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:29 AM   #8
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most likely he wont as hes not sliding just spinning the wheels...the beeping occurs when you tilt the vehicle or its in a slide...
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Sounds like me. Will the ABS mod eliminate this?
The ABS mod would eliminate this, but you may lose all of the traction control systems. Personally I like having the trac system in snow, however I find it quite irritating most of the time so I automatically hit the VSC off button to put it in auto LSD as soon as I start the truck to eliminate the engine power being cut if the wheels spin...
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His description sounds like a VSC engagement more than an ABS engagement .

If it is VSC it will feel like an ABS engagement in the brake pedal , but will be accompanied by a beeper and dash light .
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#2-this past weekend on our way up a one way long curvy hill ABS engaged and sent me into the other lane

For example , ABS is unlikely to occur going UP a hill as described above
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Agreed with OZ-T, uphill and abs sounds like bs.

ABS is not really intended to make stopping distances shorter. It is intended to keep te wheels from locking up rendering your steering wheel useless. ABS cannot "steer" you anywhere as you've described. It merely let's you steer the vehicle where you've pointed the wheels.
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Do you hear a beeper when this happens ?
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most likely he wont as hes not sliding just spinning the wheels...the beeping occurs when you tilt the vehicle or its in a slide...

The ABS mod would eliminate this, but you may lose all of the traction control systems. Personally I like having the trac system in snow, however I find it quite irritating most of the time so I automatically hit the VSC off button to put it in auto LSD as soon as I start the truck to eliminate the engine power being cut if the wheels spin...
Maybe just do this in snow? But even on dry pavement if it senses slippage then it veers me into the other lane
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Yes sir
Then it's not ABS , but VSC engaging .

This is a fairly common side effect of lifting , the skid control ecu thinks you are going into a roll over or tail slide condition .

As you go around a corner , the truck thinks the rear end is stepping out and tries to keep it from coming further around , unfortunately this results in you going straight on rather than turning

You can get the VSC system recalibrated at the dealer , this works for most people
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There is a PDF file in the first post of this thread outlining the recalibration process

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=691254
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Over the last few months I've had 3 life threatening incidents from what I believe is/was the cause of ABS engaging.

Event #1- driving (after just making a right) down a hill and hit a ice patch. -ABS engaged and steered me into oncoming traffic.

#2-this past weekend on our way up a one way long curvy hill ABS engaged and sent me into the other lane

#3-on the way down that same road it engaged and again sent me into the other road.

Not to mention all of the times that I make a turn on slush and the engine brakes are applied thus causing me to almost come to a complete stop while traffic is right behind me.

If the ABS mod is done will the dash light come on? Who else is experiencing this? Thoughts?

Dude, I did the disable mod last week with the blue/ yellow wire. Super easy and it turns on and off on the fly. I don't have a locker but I believe it works the same by fooling the computer.
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Is this just a side effect of lifting, then? Or is it something that happens on unmodified trucks too?

If there were Tacomas wildly veering into oncoming traffic every time they cornered on wet cement or ice I can't imagine there wouldn't be a recall?
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Then it's not ABS , but VSC engaging .

This is a fairly common side effect of lifting , the skid control ecu thinks you are going into a roll over or tail slide condition .
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Agreed with OZ-T, uphill and abs sounds like bs.

ABS is not really intended to make stopping distances shorter. It is intended to keep te wheels from locking up rendering your steering wheel useless. ABS cannot "steer" you anywhere as you've described. It merely let's you steer the vehicle where you've pointed the wheels.
Perhaps it's VSC then?
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