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Old 03-27-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Exclamation Engine updates (lack thereof)

Caution, this is a bit of a rant:
What's the deal with the Tacoma's lack of engine updates? Been looking for a new Tacoma for awhile. Was hugely disappointed with the '12 update. They didn't use the updated 6 (tundra, 4runner). They didn't use the updated 4 (highlander, venza). The new 4 even comes with a 6-speed auto! And why can't we get the 2kd-ftv intercooled turbo charged 2.5L diesel; 142hp 253lb-ft!?
Is it because the Taco is so good Yota is just being lazy?
I read there may be a 2014 model year engine improvement. Feel like its too little, too late; and the diesel prob won't be available.
there doesn't seem to be any other lite truck worth looking at--
PS What happened to the regular cab long bed?
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
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stroll on over to Chevy and Ford and you will find even less than desirable motors.

Dodge was talking about a little diesel in the dakota..make it a cummings and I for sure will be test driving it at least.

Natural gas motor is now the cheapest alternative IMHO though...Silverados around here have them and the filling stations should be popping up soon. 1.50-2.00 gal equiv
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:21 PM   #3
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Yes, I agree.
Cummins is working on a smallish motor for the Titan. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/05...san-titan.html But I'd rather have a diesel made by Toyota or Hino.
CNG is an interesting option, we have a decent amount of sources here in Seattle, but I'd be a little apprehensive with road/camping trips.
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European diesel regs are catching up to US regs slowly so we might start seeing more diesel options in the future but not any time soon.

I doubt you'll see anything much with the Taco until they do the redesign...if they do one at all.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:49 PM   #5
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I think their just waiting for sales to go down.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:53 PM   #6
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Oh god. Not another one.
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I want a hybrid or a hydrogen fuel cell Tacoma , anything else is archaic
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:00 PM   #8
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Historically it seems that the Tacoma and pre-Tacoma pickups are the last to get the updated versions of the motors. The 22R-E was in Celicas in the mid-80's but the pickup had the carbureted version up until like '90 or so. It may be because the expectation of Tacoma buyers is a reliable vehicle, and they want to work out any kinks before dropping new tech in the trucks. Or, it could be that it just gets less attention because it is a truck.

Like the other poster, I would bet that nothing changes until it gets a complete update.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #9
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Wait, there are no new engines for the Taco? I can't believe this.
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California (no offense) is such an influence, good or bad, on what the rest of the Country does and they will keep pushing this techno until its passed.
Not sure why since this state blowes.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:24 PM   #11
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Im holding out for impulse/warp drive...
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stroll on over to Chevy and Ford and you will find even less than desirable motors.

Dodge was talking about a little diesel in the dakota..make it a cummings and I for sure will be test driving it at least.

Natural gas motor is now the cheapest alternative IMHO though...Silverados around here have them and the filling stations should be popping up soon. 1.50-2.00 gal equiv
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My fiance has the fj and I have the Tacoma I have to say, after driving both.. I love mine.. it does everything I need it to.
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:53 PM   #15
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I came from a Nissan Pathfinder with the bullet proof 3.5L V6, yes it would run forever but it was greatly underpowered for its purpose. (I had a Maxima with the same engine and it was a neck snapper). MPG was around 16-17, my Tacoma is delivering 19-20 with much greater spunk. I'm pleased with the performance.
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stroll on over to Chevy and Ford and you will find even less than desirable motors.

Dodge was talking about a little diesel in the dakota..make it a cummings and I for sure will be test driving it at least.

Natural gas motor is now the cheapest alternative IMHO though...Silverados around here have them and the filling stations should be popping up soon. 1.50-2.00 gal equiv

At least Chevy has the 5.3l V8 option in the Colorado (and GMC Canyon)...
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stroll on over to Chevy and Ford and you will find even less than desirable motors.
Furreal? I can think of one off of the top of my head, the ecoboost, that is a damn desirable engine in my eyes.
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Furreal? I can think of one off of the top of my head, the ecoboost, that is a damn desirable engine in my eyes.

I agree if Ford made something a little bit smaller than an F150 w/ an ecoboost I would probably not be driving a Taco
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