1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Auto vs Manual which one is stronger?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jtgroce, Apr 21, 2012.

?

Auto or Manual which is more reliable?

  1. Auto

    550 vote(s)
    51.4%
  2. Manual

    521 vote(s)
    48.6%
  1. Apr 22, 2012 at 11:27 AM
    #41
    92LandCruiser

    92LandCruiser Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Member:
    #31761
    Messages:
    8,317
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada
    Vehicle:
    80 series Land Cruiser
    Cummins, tons, 40s
    I will admit there are times I have had to get creative where an auto would have been better but for the most part I have no issue on any terrain, and I go some fucking places.

    The one time I wanted an auto was on hells gate when I had to stop almost at the top. I used the ebrake to hold me while I slipped the clutch a little, then I popped everything at once. Course with an auto I'd be slipping the TC and building heat like crazy.

    About the same spot as this FJ.

    [​IMG]



    Really I just wish I had a cralwer box.

    The rest of the time I don't mind driving a manual. Then again I'm early 20s so...

    As to which is stronger... I'm not really sure. I'd expect the manual, aside from the clutch, should last longer than the auto. However, I'd expect they're both going to last a long time. Which can handle more abuse? Hard to say. Does it really matter...? They're both decent transmissions. Yeah there are things to dislike about both of them, but in the end, they're both pretty decent overall.

    Drive whichever floats your boat. I'd drive an auto, I'd drive the manual. I don't really care. I am in my HD auto tranny class now though and manual transmissions are a lot easier to work on, IMO.
     
  2. Apr 22, 2012 at 11:45 AM
    #42
    AnotherSilverTaco

    AnotherSilverTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Member:
    #53025
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    South Texas
    Vehicle:
    2006 Double Cab 4x4
    CBI trailrider rear bumper, CBI Front Receiver, Warn M8000 Receiver Winch in Warn Multi-mount cradle
    That's pretty awesome!
     
  3. Apr 22, 2012 at 12:01 PM
    #43
    MountainEarth

    MountainEarth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2010
    Member:
    #30519
    Messages:
    2,481
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    CO
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD OR Access
    Leer 100XR Shell, BedRug mat - comfy sleeping, GT Covers microfiber seat covers, BFG All Terrains 265/70r16, Dashmat, Antennax 13" shorty antenna, Weathertech liners, Ultra Gauge, Avid Light Bar, PIAA 520 ATPs, one old dog
    Oh no no... never ever. I'm a puss. :eek:
     
  4. Apr 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM
    #44
    12Tac

    12Tac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2012
    Member:
    #75548
    Messages:
    622
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2020 Double Cab, Long-bed TRD Off Road.
    SnugTop, FN Wheels, Meso Custom, Tacos4Cheap
    I wouldn't subject my vehicle to that. Nor would I attempt it in a vehicle I didn't own.
     
  5. Apr 22, 2012 at 3:05 PM
    #45
    92LandCruiser

    92LandCruiser Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Member:
    #31761
    Messages:
    8,317
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada
    Vehicle:
    80 series Land Cruiser
    Cummins, tons, 40s
    Subject it? You're not pushing past any failure point. The only thing that you might be subject to harsh operation is the TC/auto tranny due to heat build up, or the clutch on a manual. Theres enough traction to walk right up that in 4lo. No shock loading on any gears. etc... etc...

    I do own my vehicle. Outright. :)
     
  6. Apr 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM
    #46
    steve o 77

    steve o 77 braaap

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Member:
    #26726
    Messages:
    19,924
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steven
    In a corn field, OH
    Vehicle:
    1990 Chevy Siveraydo
    245k+ miles, rust, working AC, bald eagles
    If you know how to drive a manual you won't roll back at all, especially in 4lo.

    also :facepalm: to the cell phone comment if you weren't kidding.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM
    #47
    jtgroce

    jtgroce [OP] Got R Did

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Member:
    #72490
    Messages:
    789
    Gender:
    Male
    In the Foothills, NC
    Vehicle:
    '12 Taco MGM TRD Off Road
    K&N Air Filter Husky Floor Liners Weathertech Vent Visors LED Map/Dome Light Mod Chrome Door Handles AVS Bugshield Bed Mat Fog Light Anytime Mod DTRL LED's Flowmaster Super 40
    I wouldn't try that in my Taco, but i would on a 4 wheeler anyday
     
  8. Apr 22, 2012 at 5:26 PM
    #48
    92LandCruiser

    92LandCruiser Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Member:
    #31761
    Messages:
    8,317
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada
    Vehicle:
    80 series Land Cruiser
    Cummins, tons, 40s
    lol I did it in my Taco but I wouldn't on my quad. :p
     
  9. Apr 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM
    #49
    jtgroce

    jtgroce [OP] Got R Did

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Member:
    #72490
    Messages:
    789
    Gender:
    Male
    In the Foothills, NC
    Vehicle:
    '12 Taco MGM TRD Off Road
    K&N Air Filter Husky Floor Liners Weathertech Vent Visors LED Map/Dome Light Mod Chrome Door Handles AVS Bugshield Bed Mat Fog Light Anytime Mod DTRL LED's Flowmaster Super 40
    lol
     
  10. Apr 23, 2012 at 6:03 AM
    #50
    maineah

    maineah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Member:
    #53641
    Messages:
    6,606
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    4X4 SR5 V6 6spd
    More clutches in an automatic stick only has one.
     
  11. Apr 23, 2012 at 7:28 AM
    #51
    ruggedT

    ruggedT The Sticker Guy

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2011
    Member:
    #58788
    Messages:
    3,177
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Stan
    Midlothian, Va
    Vehicle:
    2016 Ford F250
    Diesel on 35's
    No issues with my auto. 88k so far plenty of offroad in 4L. I do a drain/fill (Not full flush) about every 15k to keep some fresh stuff in there. Since I started that the fluid has always looked fine. Its no harder than changing engine oil
     
  12. Apr 23, 2012 at 7:36 AM
    #52
    AnotherSilverTaco

    AnotherSilverTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Member:
    #53025
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    South Texas
    Vehicle:
    2006 Double Cab 4x4
    CBI trailrider rear bumper, CBI Front Receiver, Warn M8000 Receiver Winch in Warn Multi-mount cradle
    I think it is the advancement in the soft materials and fluid that make the automatics so strong these days compared to the past. The mentality used to be that metal is always better, but as with synthetic winch lines, this is not always the case. As for the auto tranny heating up, I have the towing package oil cooler and a scanguge, and I have not seen my transmission temperature ever really rise. It is pretty steady. I think engineers are smarter than that. Heat up that manual clutch on the other hand and wouldn't it fade just like brakes?
     
  13. Apr 23, 2012 at 7:37 AM
    #53
    Namyo

    Namyo -

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2010
    Member:
    #36165
    Messages:
    14,133
    Gender:
    Male
    I watched your video last night :D was wondering how a manual would be on that :eek:
     
  14. Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM
    #54
    babytruck

    babytruck Babytruck, babytruck...I've got a babytruck :)

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Member:
    #56797
    Messages:
    8,974
    Gender:
    Female
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2010 Barcelona AC 4x4 4.0 6spd
    I've learned to drive in a stick and have always driven a stick. Sure, I've had autos but even my auto has paddle shifters. :rolleyes:

    But my question is why is your left leg shaking? My old commute was two hours each way, hitting three traffic jams and I never had that kind of problem.
     
  15. Apr 23, 2012 at 8:03 AM
    #55
    BlueT

    BlueT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Member:
    #15341
    Messages:
    5,615
    Gender:
    Male
    NorthEast
    Vehicle:
    07 Dbl Cab LB with LSD
    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    so true :D
     
  16. Apr 23, 2012 at 8:55 AM
    #56
    92LandCruiser

    92LandCruiser Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2010
    Member:
    #31761
    Messages:
    8,317
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada
    Vehicle:
    80 series Land Cruiser
    Cummins, tons, 40s
    The engine drives the impeller, they're connected, so when you're holding the the truck from rolling back like that but the turbine can't really move, that fluid has to do something. So it's bouncing off all the angles like crazy. That's what causes heat build up. If you're "stalling" your truck a lot you'll see temp rises.

    Auto transmissions can handle a lot of abuse if well designed, no doubt about that.

    Tough but doable, especially if you don't have to stop. I had to slip it a few times going up though and not just when stopped. Need lower gears. :p
     
  17. Apr 23, 2012 at 8:56 AM
    #57
    AnotherSilverTaco

    AnotherSilverTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2011
    Member:
    #53025
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    South Texas
    Vehicle:
    2006 Double Cab 4x4
    CBI trailrider rear bumper, CBI Front Receiver, Warn M8000 Receiver Winch in Warn Multi-mount cradle
    I like to distance run, maybe that's it.
     
  18. Apr 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM
    #58
    81shark

    81shark Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2008
    Member:
    #10567
    Messages:
    4,069
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2006 Base Access CP1
    i'm happy with my 5 speed. 72K miles and zero issues. keep on truckin
     
  19. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:22 AM
    #59
    babytruck

    babytruck Babytruck, babytruck...I've got a babytruck :)

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Member:
    #56797
    Messages:
    8,974
    Gender:
    Female
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2010 Barcelona AC 4x4 4.0 6spd
    I do kicking patterns for show. :p
     
  20. Apr 23, 2012 at 12:54 PM
    #60
    lickem66

    lickem66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Member:
    #68958
    Messages:
    54
    Gender:
    Male
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    12 V6 DCSB 4x4 Sport 6MT
    Ride-Rites, OE tubes, Tri-Fold tonneau, extra bed D-rings, OE bedmat, center console organizer, rearview mirror bracket re-locate.
    I agree.
    I love MT, especially in sport sedans and sport cars. Love rowing gears but do hate the occasional stop and go traffic. Plus, with all the wimps out there now days, no one will ever borrow my truck because they don't have the slightest idea how to shift it so that is an added bonus. At least my 15 YO son will know how to drive a MT and will probably be the only kid in his school that will know how. Now days the closest thing to manuals are when you "manually" tap the floppy paddle shifters.. ha ha.. Proper vehicles have 3 pedals.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top