'05 Motor Mounts Failed/Failing

AzPrerunner05 · 04-07-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 05TacoTRD

I don't know how many of you guys venture over to TTORA or TN but this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately over there. To put it in short, some '05s are having issues with the motor mounts giving in at the frame due to bad welds. I hadn't seen a thread on this so I figured it should be posted. You '05 guys should go check your mounts.

Heres a few of the threads with more details/pics/list of uses whose frames have failed.

'05 Tacoma Motor Mount/Frame Failure List
Cracked Frame 2005 Taco
Motor Mount Ripped From Frame
05 Tacoma Motor Mount (Update)

Thanks!! Gonna check tonight. I will say I'm at 76,000+ without any problems so far. Any one know of other issues for the '05?

I've got an issue with a squeaky bushing or leaf spring on the left rear. Probably just dust, it's been washed and spray lubed without affect.

MY50cal · 04-11-2009, 03:43 PM

Wow, new member and one of the first threads I read is this. sweet. only have 50k but i'm checking tonight.

JimKellyfan · 04-16-2009, 07:10 AM

I don't know about the others, but the sales dude said my 09 had break away motor mounts....Maybe upgradeable ?
They are only supposed to break away during a nose dive off a cliff or similar accident...

chris4x4 · 04-16-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JimKellyfan

I don't know about the others, but the sales dude said my 09 had break away motor mounts....Maybe upgradeable ?
They are only supposed to break away during a nose dive off a cliff or similar accident...

All cars and trucks have these. They break in the middle...not at the frame.

JimKellyfan · 04-16-2009, 07:58 AM

The salesman ( who by the way is now hard to find ) made it seem like it was a new feature....

Does every car buying experience feel the same ?

Guess I needed to do more research, but it's never enough...
My rotors pulsated right out of the box, and after an hour and a half they said they can only cut them, not replace....Removing more metal will make them dissipate heat even worse than before...and pulsate quicker...and too, why did it pulsate out of the gate ?...most likely improper wheel torque but there are more possibilities than just that...Still trying to resolve that one...good luck

chris4x4 · 04-16-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JimKellyfan

The salesman ( who by the way is now hard to find ) made it seem like it was a new feature....

Does every car buying experience feel the same ?

Guess I needed to do more research, but it's never enough...
My rotors pulsated right out of the box, and after an hour and a half they said they can only cut them, not replace....Removing more metal will make them dissipate heat even worse than before...and pulsate quicker...and too, why did it pulsate out of the gate ?...most likely improper wheel torque but there are more possibilities than just that...Still trying to resolve that one...good luck

Car salesman generally dont know WTF they are saying. When I bought my first Tacoma, they guy jumped into the bed, and started jumping up and down, and moveing side to side telling me to look how the "Active Electronic Suspension" works. THEN, he got under the truck and pointed out that the Proportioning valve is hooked to the computer and controls the shock dampening......It was at that time I asked him to be silent.

JimKellyfan · 04-16-2009, 08:15 AM

That is great...
Speaks volumes of great proportions...no wonder the dealers are struggling....I just got off the phone with the dealership complaint person...She says they will make it right ( give me new rotors due to pulsation out of the box ) But I also said, I was at the dealer for an hour and a half, the car never left the ground, no one checked the rear brakes or wheel torque that I know of, just burned on down the road with it at who knows what RPM....But also I wanted a little help with the trailer harness I need due to not being able to load my lawn tractor on the back and I need to buy a trailer because of it. I'll buy the trailer, they are to discount me on the harness needed or eat it, hopefully the latter. ( after all, I traded my Disco II to them and they have it sitting on the lot and done nothing to it and marked from the 2500 they gave me to the 5999 they are selling it for...They can sure as s... eat a 96 dollar list price harness and the 1 hour labor.....Man, customer service is like a thing of the past sometimes...For 21K plus interest and taking it on the chin with the Rover, I do expect brakes not to pulsate and to be able to haul what I reiterated to the salesman 3 or 4 times during sale...So I gotta buy a trailer..I'm cool with that part..

colvilletacoma · 05-02-2009, 11:01 AM

yeah because most of their salesmans are dumbasses who dont know WTF they are taking about. My motor mounts are doing fine by the way, also have this added weight to it:

JimKellyfan · 05-03-2009, 06:14 AM

That's a cool lookin' truck. What's that on the back, the side rails ? I have a tonneau, but every now and then I will have to remove for cargo or dogs. I was thinkin' about a " Coors Courier type setup, but am uncertain as yet. ( wooden stake rails I custom build )

danteisme · 05-04-2009, 12:22 PM

Just seeing if there were any more updates as far as this being a 2.7L issue or if its just the 4.0L issue. didnt read about any breaking issues with the mount for this motor unless i missed it.

colvilletacoma · 05-04-2009, 07:52 PM

no issues with the 2.4L. If you got one I wouldnt worry about it, unless you're jumping your truck then everyone who is doing that has to worry about their motor mounts, along with other problems. So if thats what you're looking into or got then dont worry about it, you'll be fine. Also its a 05 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed issue. Dont know if any long beds have had it or not but seems to be only 05's. The 06's motor mounts arent much better but they are a little, the 07+ are all fixed

danteisme · 05-04-2009, 08:12 PM

ah ok. i'm going to look at an 05 2.7 L reg cab 4x4 this week, i think i'll have them throw it up on a lift anyways just to see that the mounts do look ok. jusssssssst to play it safe

The_05 · 05-26-2009, 09:57 PM

I'm no genoius here but I dont see how adding metal and welding helped much I would think gusseting and triangulating would be better I've welded on frames in the passed and its a time consuminig proccess since frames are heat treated. We had to heet the frame to 500*F then start any welding on pick up frames on rig frames the number is higher.

Soul · 06-12-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerfanXD

Interesting...subscribed.

how you subscribe?

chris4x4 · 06-12-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul

how you subscribe?

By makeing a post in the thread...

comajoe · 06-16-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

Ok. Anyone with an midline 06 and latter?

i have a 06 built in august. i do NOT have the reinforcements. BUT the weld beads are beefer than in the 05 photos. plus there is alot of factory install "check" marks along the beads.

Matt Stephen · 06-21-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by motojunkie96

Oh, this is just great to read. I just got my '05 back from a failed front hub at 45K miles, which was luckily covered under warranty. I'll be checking this stuff out ASAP in the morning.

i just visited the stealership about a front left hub/ wheel bearing failure.... is this a common problem? i have a 2005 double cab shortbed. thanks. new member... -Matt

Snyperx · 06-24-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Stephen

i just visited the stealership about a front left hub/ wheel bearing failure.... is this a common problem? i have a 2005 double cab shortbed. thanks. new member... -Matt

Welcome to TW. Not to be a dick, but this thread in in regard to premature motor mount failure in the 2005 Tacomas. You may want to start a seperate thread on your issue or maybe try a search to see if anyone else already posted about a similar issue.

T0y0ta05 · 07-08-2009, 02:21 PM

Interesting topic/thread. I have a 2005 as well and of course my motor mounts use the "weaker" design if you will. However, I can't see how this would actually be an issue with any normal use unless you are desert racing, off roading and/or jumping your vehicle on a regular basis. My pavement queen is likely never to see an issue and therefore I'm not much concern about it. Although, I'm glad someone made this a sticky so we can keep tabs on the progress/outcome of others.

sixonthefloor · 08-06-2009, 09:45 PM

You know I've heard about this a while back but I didn't think to much about it. Now after reading this I'm worried. My truck is 4 years old and I have no problems at all with my 05 Tacoma dc sb 6 speed. (knock wood). Good to know though, I'm gonna check my mounts tomorrow.

04-16-2009, 07:10 AM	#183
JimKellyfan Junior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16041 Location: da South Gender: Dude Posts: 22 09 Access Cab SR5 2.something 2009 Access Cab Automatic 2.something ARE LSII Tonneau cover	The 09's I don't know about the others, but the sales dude said my 09 had break away motor mounts....Maybe upgradeable ? They are only supposed to break away during a nose dive off a cliff or similar accident... __________________ Is it OK to drink coffee from my Land Rover cups still ? The Toyotas been great, but the payments.... OW ! what a feeling !

04-16-2009, 07:58 AM	#185
JimKellyfan Junior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16041 Location: da South Gender: Dude Posts: 22 09 Access Cab SR5 2.something 2009 Access Cab Automatic 2.something ARE LSII Tonneau cover	oh The salesman ( who by the way is now hard to find ) made it seem like it was a new feature.... Does every car buying experience feel the same ? Guess I needed to do more research, but it's never enough... My rotors pulsated right out of the box, and after an hour and a half they said they can only cut them, not replace....Removing more metal will make them dissipate heat even worse than before...and pulsate quicker...and too, why did it pulsate out of the gate ?...most likely improper wheel torque but there are more possibilities than just that...Still trying to resolve that one...good luck __________________ Is it OK to drink coffee from my Land Rover cups still ? The Toyotas been great, but the payments.... OW ! what a feeling !

04-16-2009, 08:15 AM	#187
JimKellyfan Junior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16041 Location: da South Gender: Dude Posts: 22 09 Access Cab SR5 2.something 2009 Access Cab Automatic 2.something ARE LSII Tonneau cover	Hahahahahahah That is great... Speaks volumes of great proportions...no wonder the dealers are struggling....I just got off the phone with the dealership complaint person...She says they will make it right ( give me new rotors due to pulsation out of the box ) But I also said, I was at the dealer for an hour and a half, the car never left the ground, no one checked the rear brakes or wheel torque that I know of, just burned on down the road with it at who knows what RPM....But also I wanted a little help with the trailer harness I need due to not being able to load my lawn tractor on the back and I need to buy a trailer because of it. I'll buy the trailer, they are to discount me on the harness needed or eat it, hopefully the latter. ( after all, I traded my Disco II to them and they have it sitting on the lot and done nothing to it and marked from the 2500 they gave me to the 5999 they are selling it for...They can sure as s... eat a 96 dollar list price harness and the 1 hour labor.....Man, customer service is like a thing of the past sometimes...For 21K plus interest and taking it on the chin with the Rover, I do expect brakes not to pulsate and to be able to haul what I reiterated to the salesman 3 or 4 times during sale...So I gotta buy a trailer..I'm cool with that part.. __________________ Is it OK to drink coffee from my Land Rover cups still ? The Toyotas been great, but the payments.... OW ! what a feeling !

05-03-2009, 06:14 AM	#189
JimKellyfan Junior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16041 Location: da South Gender: Dude Posts: 22 09 Access Cab SR5 2.something 2009 Access Cab Automatic 2.something ARE LSII Tonneau cover	Nice That's a cool lookin' truck. What's that on the back, the side rails ? I have a tonneau, but every now and then I will have to remove for cargo or dogs. I was thinkin' about a " Coors Courier type setup, but am uncertain as yet. ( wooden stake rails I custom build ) __________________ Is it OK to drink coffee from my Land Rover cups still ? The Toyotas been great, but the payments.... OW ! what a feeling !

05-04-2009, 12:22 PM	#190
danteisme Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4248 Location: pittsburgh Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 82	Just seeing if there were any more updates as far as this being a 2.7L issue or if its just the 4.0L issue. didnt read about any breaking issues with the mount for this motor unless i missed it. __________________ 2005 reg cab 4x4 1996 acura integra gsr

04-11-2009, 03:43 PM	#182
MY50cal I think I'm getting the Fear. Joined: Apr 2009, #15613 Location: Holly, MI Gender: Male Posts: 400 05 SB Access cab Trd Off Road 2005 Access Cab Manual V6 3' Toytec 884 Coils and AAL, Flowmaster 50 cat back, TC UCA's, K&N CAI, BHLM, 5k HID Projectors, Color Matched Grillcraft Satoshi, FLM, WeatherTech Floor Liners and Sill protecters, Infinity Sound w/ pioneer head, 20% all around, Shorty Antenna, LED Map+Dome Lights, Blue/White Dash Mod	Wow, new member and one of the first threads I read is this. sweet. only have 50k but i'm checking tonight.

05-02-2009, 11:01 AM	#188
colvilletacoma Senior Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11836 Location: Central Washington Gender: Male Posts: 149 Toyota Tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L V6 OME 886 Coils, Bilstein 5100's in Front, Tuff Country in Rear, Custom Racks with winch built in	yeah because most of their salesmans are dumbasses who dont know WTF they are taking about. My motor mounts are doing fine by the way, also have this added weight to it:

05-04-2009, 07:52 PM	#191
colvilletacoma Senior Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11836 Location: Central Washington Gender: Male Posts: 149 Toyota Tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L V6 OME 886 Coils, Bilstein 5100's in Front, Tuff Country in Rear, Custom Racks with winch built in	no issues with the 2.4L. If you got one I wouldnt worry about it, unless you're jumping your truck then everyone who is doing that has to worry about their motor mounts, along with other problems. So if thats what you're looking into or got then dont worry about it, you'll be fine. Also its a 05 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed issue. Dont know if any long beds have had it or not but seems to be only 05's. The 06's motor mounts arent much better but they are a little, the 07+ are all fixed

05-04-2009, 08:12 PM	#192
danteisme Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4248 Location: pittsburgh Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 82	ah ok. i'm going to look at an 05 2.7 L reg cab 4x4 this week, i think i'll have them throw it up on a lift anyways just to see that the mounts do look ok. jusssssssst to play it safe __________________ 2005 reg cab 4x4 1996 acura integra gsr

05-26-2009, 09:57 PM	#193
The_05 Member Joined: May 2009, #17190 Location: Waco, Tx Gender: Male Posts: 36 05 Base Tacoma 2005 Regular Cab Automatic Nothing special at the moment just a K&N air filter.	I'm no genoius here but I dont see how adding metal and welding helped much I would think gusseting and triangulating would be better I've welded on frames in the passed and its a time consuminig proccess since frames are heat treated. We had to heet the frame to 500*F then start any welding on pick up frames on rig frames the number is higher. __________________ "Everything is a little better with a little burnt diesel"

07-08-2009, 02:21 PM	#199
T0y0ta05 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2009, #16522 Location: Pennsylvania Gender: Male Posts: 116 05 Silver Sport DC Tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 Bone stock other than new floor mats.	Interesting topic/thread. I have a 2005 as well and of course my motor mounts use the "weaker" design if you will. However, I can't see how this would actually be an issue with any normal use unless you are desert racing, off roading and/or jumping your vehicle on a regular basis. My pavement queen is likely never to see an issue and therefore I'm not much concern about it. Although, I'm glad someone made this a sticky so we can keep tabs on the progress/outcome of others.

08-06-2009, 09:45 PM	#200
sixonthefloor Junior Member Joined: May 2008, #6634 Location: Orange Park, Florida Posts: 24 Silver 05 Tacoma Sport 4x4 2005 Double Cab Manual 4.0 V-6 3" Toytec Lift w/Nitto Terra Grapplers ATs on Enkei 17x8 wheels, custom 2 tone leather, DVD headrests, AVICZ-2 Nav unit with Blue tooth/rearview back-up and XM radio, Randy Ellis light bar with PIAA 520 and 550 lights, TRD intake w/ AFE dryflow and wrap, TRD exhaust, PIAA back-up and bed lights,	You know I've heard about this a while back but I didn't think to much about it. Now after reading this I'm worried. My truck is 4 years old and I have no problems at all with my 05 Tacoma dc sb 6 speed. (knock wood). Good to know though, I'm gonna check my mounts tomorrow. __________________ Mods: Toytec 3" lift w/ 33" Nitto AT tires and Enkei wheels, light bar w/ PIAA 550 & 520 lights, Grillcraft grills, Blk headlights w/brows, leather seats, AVIC Z-2, DVD headrests, PIAA backup & bed lights and wipers, LED tailights, Lorado tonneau cover, Scanguage, TRD intake & exhaust, Optima batt, Redline hood struts, Auto meter oil guages, Muth mirrors, always on amber fog lights, cup holder light, nerf bars, illum 4x4 switch, homelink rear view mirror, Truspeed calibrator, DTRL mod, All fluids Royal Purple and lots Toyota aftermarket stuff and more

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