'05 Motor Mounts Failed/Failing

T0y0ta05 · 08-07-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixonthefloor

You know I've heard about this a while back but I didn't think to much about it. Now after reading this I'm worried. My truck is 4 years old and I have no problems at all with my 05 Tacoma dc sb 6 speed. (knock wood). Good to know though, I'm gonna check my mounts tomorrow.

I wouldn't loose any sleep over it. I looked at my mounts as well and all is fine.

socal_av · 09-08-2009, 02:50 AM

mhhh im about to buy an 05 access prerunner off road auto. Now im not to sure... it has 62000 miles. so is it covered under warranty

Snyperx · 09-08-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by socal_av

mhhh im about to buy an 05 access prerunner off road auto. Now im not to sure... it has 62000 miles. so is it covered under warranty

I have a 2005 Double Cab SR5 4x4 and my mounts are just fine. I have 60k on my truck. My personal opinion is that the mounts are failing on trucks that being driven overly aggressive (i.e. jumping without the proper frame reinforcement). Yes the Tacoma is a good truck, but it wasn't designed for jumping out of the box.

socal_av · 09-08-2009, 12:01 PM

cool thanks.. ya no jumping or serious wheeling for me.just maybe a lil bit ..just get to and from work and school and haul my bike around to the track. So i guess i should be fine...

05TRDOffRoad · 09-15-2009, 08:58 AM

Are the power train designs identical on the 2005+ trucks with V6, 4x4, etc? Have the frame designs changed other than the engine mount? The reason for the gussets could be as some folks claim, or for other design reasons. The gusset could be to address a stiffness issue or a manufacturing process issue, and not a weld strength issue. How often are welding cracks being found?

sonjay · 09-15-2009, 11:31 AM

My 05 has very shitty looking welds, and you can see they are starting to rust between the frame and the weld. My truck has 28,000mi, no jumping I can assure you. The 07- newer trucks have a frame reinforcement in this spot because of this issue, the welds are also much much beefier. There is some pics around comparing the difference, I think maybe at the beginning of this thread. As far as I know there is no difference in drivetrain from 05-present, for a V6 4x4. Frame warranty is 3 years or 36,000mi I believe. This is definitely something to keep an eye on, as it is becoming much more common on TTORA and some other sites.

dtacow · 09-15-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05TRDOffRoad

Are the power train designs identical on the 2005+ trucks with V6, 4x4, etc? Have the frame designs changed other than the engine mount? The reason for the gussets could be as some folks claim, or for other design reasons. The gusset could be to address a stiffness issue or a manufacturing process issue, and not a weld strength issue. How often are welding cracks being found?

Uhh, the issue is the motor mounts failing by collapsing into the frame-- it's pretty obvious that the new plate is to fix that issue. Whatever the cause (metal being too thin, undercut welds, etc.) the plate is there for that reason.

05TRDOffRoad · 09-16-2009, 04:15 AM

Oh I see, good pint, I didn't consider they were burning through the frame. So the weld is possibly to deep.

05TRDOffRoad · 09-17-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SnoBoarder

Chris man, nail on the head.. bravo. Here's a borrowed pic of an 05 Driver's side motor mount and a pic of my 07 Driver's side motor mount. A rather noticeable and calculated difference in the design.

*Updated* Direct Link to Images:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...sSideMount.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...SideMount2.jpg

It is quite noticeable that the main frames are made differently. The older frame has a seam in it, the newer frame does not.

rscecil007 · 09-17-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by comajoe

i have a 06 built in august. i do NOT have the reinforcements. BUT the weld beads are beefer than in the 05 photos. plus there is alot of factory install "check" marks along the beads.

I've got an 06 built in January, and mine's the same. about 3 or 4 white paint dots right on the weld.

Mine's only got 35K on it though, and I didn't see any signs of failure.

bubbafatty · 10-08-2009, 08:28 AM

Checked my mounts and the same. Mine was manufactured in Farmington, CA 04/06. no plate reinforcements, but the welds felt thicker and there are white dots on each face of the weld. Everthing looked fine at 60K miles.

mjp2 · 10-08-2009, 08:42 AM

I had mine reinforced.

tarandus · 10-20-2009, 08:44 AM

90,000 miles on my '06 and the mounts look solid ~ no rust, cracks, anything. The truck is "new" to me, but I know it was used pretty hard for hunting on dirt/gravel roads so its had some off-road use. Hopefully this will never be a problem for those of us not catching air in our Tacos!

poff1986 · 10-21-2009, 02:39 PM

My 05 has been in WI its whole life. The mounts still look good to me. Not too worried.

newfie8 · 11-09-2009, 05:22 PM

Told my buddy that got a 05 taco about this the other day and he said he never heard about it before and kind of ignored me.lol. Oh well i guess it sucks for him not having a computer. I've tried explaining this site to him but i just don't think he gets it!

09-08-2009, 02:50 AM	#202
socal_av Member Name: Rudy Joined: Jul 2009, #19941 Location: Palmdale <CA Gender: Male Posts: 44 soon to be 09 Prerunner AC 2009 Access Cab Automatic	mhhh im about to buy an 05 access prerunner off road auto. Now im not to sure... it has 62000 miles. so is it covered under warranty __________________

09-08-2009, 12:01 PM	#204
socal_av Member Name: Rudy Joined: Jul 2009, #19941 Location: Palmdale <CA Gender: Male Posts: 44 soon to be 09 Prerunner AC 2009 Access Cab Automatic	cool thanks.. ya no jumping or serious wheeling for me.just maybe a lil bit ..just get to and from work and school and haul my bike around to the track. So i guess i should be fine... __________________

10-08-2009, 08:28 AM	#211
bubbafatty Junior Member Joined: Nov 2007, #3367 Posts: 3	06 long bed auto 4.0 Checked my mounts and the same. Mine was manufactured in Farmington, CA 04/06. no plate reinforcements, but the welds felt thicker and there are white dots on each face of the weld. Everthing looked fine at 60K miles.

10-21-2009, 02:39 PM	#214
poff1986 Seasoned Newbie Name: Brad Joined: Oct 2009, #23940 Location: Madison, WI Age: 22 Gender: Male Posts: 50 05' Impulse Red Tacoma AC 4x4 2005 Access Cab Automatic 4.0L Stock	My 05 has been in WI its whole life. The mounts still look good to me. Not too worried. __________________ PoFfY

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09-15-2009, 08:58 AM	#205
05TRDOffRoad Junior Member Joined: Sep 2009, #22783 Location: VA Age: 50 Gender: Male Posts: 7 SR5 Access Cab TRD Off Road 2005 Access Cab Automatic 4.0	Are the power train designs identical on the 2005+ trucks with V6, 4x4, etc? Have the frame designs changed other than the engine mount? The reason for the gussets could be as some folks claim, or for other design reasons. The gusset could be to address a stiffness issue or a manufacturing process issue, and not a weld strength issue. How often are welding cracks being found?

09-15-2009, 11:31 AM	#206
sonjay Senior Member Joined: Oct 2008, #9834 Location: An island in the Pacific Gender: Male Posts: 636 05 Black DC 4x4 2005 Double Cab Automatic OME 885, Dakars, heated mirrors	My 05 has very shitty looking welds, and you can see they are starting to rust between the frame and the weld. My truck has 28,000mi, no jumping I can assure you. The 07- newer trucks have a frame reinforcement in this spot because of this issue, the welds are also much much beefier. There is some pics around comparing the difference, I think maybe at the beginning of this thread. As far as I know there is no difference in drivetrain from 05-present, for a V6 4x4. Frame warranty is 3 years or 36,000mi I believe. This is definitely something to keep an eye on, as it is becoming much more common on TTORA and some other sites.

09-16-2009, 04:15 AM	#208
05TRDOffRoad Junior Member Joined: Sep 2009, #22783 Location: VA Age: 50 Gender: Male Posts: 7 SR5 Access Cab TRD Off Road 2005 Access Cab Automatic 4.0	Oh I see, good pint, I didn't consider they were burning through the frame. So the weld is possibly to deep.

10-08-2009, 08:42 AM	#212
mjp2 Living vicariously through myself Name: Milton Juevos Portimous II Joined: Feb 2007, #924 Location: NJ Gender: Dude Posts: 6,001 '06 TRD Access Cab, v6, 6-speed 2006 Access Cab Manual 4.0 Painted grill	I had mine reinforced.

10-20-2009, 08:44 AM	#213
tarandus Junior Member Joined: Sep 2009, #23502 Location: Bozeman, MT Gender: Male Posts: 22 06 Off Road 6 spd SWB 2006 Double Cab Manual OME front coilovers, rear AAL, WeatherTec mats	90,000 miles on my '06 and the mounts look solid ~ no rust, cracks, anything. The truck is "new" to me, but I know it was used pretty hard for hunting on dirt/gravel roads so its had some off-road use. Hopefully this will never be a problem for those of us not catching air in our Tacos!

11-09-2009, 05:22 PM	#215
newfie8 Member Joined: Mar 2009, #14512 Location: newfoundland Gender: Male Posts: 40 09 tacoma 2009 Access Cab Automatic Led Third brake light.Tinted windows. Fog lights. Intermittent wiper switch. Skid plate. Extra D rings	Told my buddy that got a 05 taco about this the other day and he said he never heard about it before and kind of ignored me.lol. Oh well i guess it sucks for him not having a computer. I've tried explaining this site to him but i just don't think he gets it!

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