'05 Motor Mounts Failed/Failing

Khaos · 12-22-2008, 02:55 PM

I don't know how many of you guys venture over to TTORA or TN but this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately over there. To put it in short, some '05s are having issues with the motor mounts giving in at the frame due to bad welds. I hadn't seen a thread on this so I figured it should be posted. You '05 guys should go check your mounts.

Heres a few of the threads with more details/pics/list of uses whose frames have failed.

'05 Tacoma Motor Mount/Frame Failure List
Cracked Frame 2005 Taco
Motor Mount Ripped From Frame
05 Tacoma Motor Mount (Update)

PackerfanXD · 12-22-2008, 03:50 PM

Interesting...subscribed.

Khaos · 12-22-2008, 06:03 PM

Bump. It would be great if we could get this thread stickyed. This could be real issue.

motojunkie96 · 12-22-2008, 09:31 PM

Oh, this is just great to read. I just got my '05 back from a failed front hub at 45K miles, which was luckily covered under warranty. I'll be checking this stuff out ASAP in the morning.

Mark350 · 12-22-2008, 10:06 PM

Is this strictly an 05' problem?

Killer Red Taco · 12-22-2008, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark350

Is this strictly an 05' problem?

No, i've read some 06's are having problems I would check all of the 2nd gens .

sonjay · 12-22-2008, 10:10 PM

Its looks like a shitty design. I mean I'm not an engineer or anything, but there looks like a lot leverage there. Mine check out fine on 05 but I only have 25,000mi.

chris4x4 · 12-23-2008, 05:50 AM

I have been inspecting mine from time to time (2007), and it seems on my frame where the mounts are, there is a gusset inbetween the mount and the frame. Its a much more "beeft" design than whats on the '05 frames, so it leads me to think Toyota or Dana corp (who makes the Tacoma frame) caught the problem an quietly fixed the issue.

chris4x4 · 12-23-2008, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerfanXD

Interesting...subscribed.

Matt, when I see you next time, I'll chek out your frame and see if you have anything to worry about.

Dark Knight · 12-23-2008, 06:13 AM

SOB, subscribed and checking asap!

SnoBoarder · 12-23-2008, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris4x4

I have been inspecting mine from time to time (2007), and it seems on my frame where the mounts are, there is a gusset inbetween the mount and the frame. Its a much more "beeft" design than whats on the '05 frames, so it leads me to think Toyota or Dana corp (who makes the Tacoma frame) caught the problem an quietly fixed the issue.

Chris man, nail on the head.. bravo. Here's a borrowed pic of an 05 Driver's side motor mount and a pic of my 07 Driver's side motor mount. A rather noticeable and calculated difference in the design.

*Updated* Direct Link to Images:
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...sSideMount.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...SideMount2.jpg

Dark Knight · 12-23-2008, 08:56 AM

are these photos from the bottom looking up?

Jester243 · 12-23-2008, 09:03 AM

subscribed...

chris4x4 · 12-23-2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Knight

are these photos from the bottom looking up?

Yep.

Kilted Chiken · 12-23-2008, 09:47 AM

Thread Stickied.

colvilletacoma · 12-23-2008, 10:29 AM

Most of those posts you guys read from the other forum sites (TTORA, Toyotanation, etc...) were from me. I started the list and I think that picture on this forum from the 05 may be mine. I apperciate Snoboarder getting underneath his truck to look at his mounts! Why would Toyota start to reinforce their welds if there wasnt a problem in their earlier models? Seems like it was something that was fixed quietly as Snoboarder stated and they just tried to cover it up and try to screw us (the consumer) over. Thank again everyone on here!

SnoBoarder · 12-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Chris4x4 spotted the design differences, he's the man and deserves all of the credit on this find... I just wanted to do a quick comparison and get the pics up for others to see. I was rather surprised myself when I saw the design changes. Good luck and we all hope Arbitration will rule in your favor!

Khaos · 12-23-2008, 10:34 AM

I just checked my motor mounts on my '05 and as of right now I don't see any issue. Its very interesting to see how they have changed them on the '07s though. Just goes to show that Toyota is well aware that these trucks are having an issue with the motor mounts.

Welcome to TW Colville. Hopefully Toyota takes care of your truck the way they should.

colvilletacoma · 12-23-2008, 10:40 AM

They almost have no case againist me and Im sure Arbitration will favor on my side due to the fact that he can clearly see that Toyota was aware of the problem and fixed it. Also a Metellurgist hopefully will see the weakened frame due to the poor welds. Now if I could only get Cell4Soul to find his court documents that he won aganist Toyota I would almost 100% set!

chris4x4 · 12-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colvilletacoma

They almost have no case againist me and Im sure Arbitration will favor on my side due to the fact that he can clearly see that Toyota was aware of the problem and fixed it. Also a Metellurgist hopefully will see the weakened frame due to the poor welds. Now if I could only get Cell4Soul to find his court documents that he won aganist Toyota I would almost 100% set!

Its too bad you need to go to this length to get something like this handled. Its very clear there is a problem in that area, and it should have been caught BEFORE the newer Tacomas went to production. ANyone who has welded or engineered frames should know what kind of stresses will be brought forth in that area. To add, as it is very clear that the frames are now reinforced (Im courious as to when this started), Toyota would be better off just admitting the problem and fixing it post haste.

Thanks, SnoBoarder for the props!

12-22-2008, 02:55 PM	#1
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12-22-2008, 03:50 PM	#2
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12-22-2008, 06:03 PM	#3
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12-22-2008, 09:31 PM	#4
motojunkie96 Junior Member Joined: Nov 2007, #3537 Posts: 25 05 SR5, 3" suspension, 3" body, 285/75-16 Nitto Grapplers 2005 Double Cab Automatic	Oh, this is just great to read. I just got my '05 back from a failed front hub at 45K miles, which was luckily covered under warranty. I'll be checking this stuff out ASAP in the morning.

12-22-2008, 10:06 PM	#5
Mark350 Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11287 Gender: Male Posts: 62	Is this strictly an 05' problem?

12-22-2008, 10:10 PM	#7
sonjay Senior Member Joined: Oct 2008, #9834 Location: Vancouver Island Gender: Male Posts: 711	Its looks like a shitty design. I mean I'm not an engineer or anything, but there looks like a lot leverage there. Mine check out fine on 05 but I only have 25,000mi.

12-23-2008, 08:56 AM	#12
Dark Knight For the money, for the glory, and for the fun. Name: Jeff Joined: Jul 2008, #8006 Location: Tennessee Gender: Male Posts: 5,913 Black 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 Skyjacker Platinum Coilovers, Skyjacker rear leafs, FJ TRD SE wheels, 285/75/16 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Deleted N-Fab Light Bar, Piaa 520 Smr Driving Lights, Piaa 510 Ion Crystal Fog Lights, Yakima Rack, Extang Solid Fold Tonneau, Bestop Canopy, TRD Exhaust, TRD CAI, Kenwood DNX5120 Navi, Fog Light Mod, Driving Light Mod, BHLM, Scanguage II on Blendmount, TC uca's, VIAIR OBA, Shrockworks Rock Sliders	are these photos from the bottom looking up? __________________

12-23-2008, 09:47 AM	#15
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12-23-2008, 10:29 AM	#16
colvilletacoma Senior Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11836 Location: Central Washington Gender: Male Posts: 149 Toyota Tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L V6 OME 886 Coils, Bilstein 5100's in Front, Tuff Country in Rear, Custom Racks with winch built in	Most of those posts you guys read from the other forum sites (TTORA, Toyotanation, etc...) were from me. I started the list and I think that picture on this forum from the 05 may be mine. I apperciate Snoboarder getting underneath his truck to look at his mounts! Why would Toyota start to reinforce their welds if there wasnt a problem in their earlier models? Seems like it was something that was fixed quietly as Snoboarder stated and they just tried to cover it up and try to screw us (the consumer) over. Thank again everyone on here!

12-23-2008, 10:33 AM	#17
SnoBoarder Hardcore wheeler, try and keep up.... if you can. Joined: Nov 2008, #10455 Location: Lost Gender: Male Posts: 195 85 4Runner - Built not Bought 1985 Double Cab Manual 22RE	Chris4x4 spotted the design differences, he's the man and deserves all of the credit on this find... I just wanted to do a quick comparison and get the pics up for others to see. I was rather surprised myself when I saw the design changes. Good luck and we all hope Arbitration will rule in your favor! __________________ 85 4Runner TG 3", Addicted Offroad Bumpers, All Pro Sliders, 5.29's, Rear Aussie, High Steer, 15x8 ProComp Crawlers, 37" SSR's, SuperWinch EPi9.0s 07 Tacoma Sold

12-23-2008, 10:34 AM	#18
Khaos [OP] Senior Member Name: Bryant Joined: Feb 2008, #4570 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Age: 19 Gender: Guy Posts: 3,870 '05 Prerunner V6 TRD Off Road 2005 Access Cab Automatic 1GR-FE V6 265/75/16 BFG A/T, Chrome Bull Bar, 100W off road lights, 2FT Fiberglass CB Antenna, Axxess iPod adapter, Blue LED under dash lighting	I just checked my motor mounts on my '05 and as of right now I don't see any issue. Its very interesting to see how they have changed them on the '07s though. Just goes to show that Toyota is well aware that these trucks are having an issue with the motor mounts. Welcome to TW Colville. Hopefully Toyota takes care of your truck the way they should. __________________ Build

12-23-2008, 10:40 AM	#19
colvilletacoma Senior Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11836 Location: Central Washington Gender: Male Posts: 149 Toyota Tacoma 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L V6 OME 886 Coils, Bilstein 5100's in Front, Tuff Country in Rear, Custom Racks with winch built in	They almost have no case againist me and Im sure Arbitration will favor on my side due to the fact that he can clearly see that Toyota was aware of the problem and fixed it. Also a Metellurgist hopefully will see the weakened frame due to the poor welds. Now if I could only get Cell4Soul to find his court documents that he won aganist Toyota I would almost 100% set!

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