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Old 05-25-2012, 06:28 PM   #21
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The Tacoma's fuel filter is actually in the white plastic fuel pump assembly, not a rust proof metal container. I don't think we have that one talked about in the article. You can unclip the plastic housing and pull out the filter.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:36 PM   #22
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I had an inline fuel filter plug right up at 130k on my first Honda. It blocked all but a trickle. Darned if I know what got into it though. Put almost another 50k on that car without a single pump issue so I doubt it was that.

None of the new Hondas have inline filters either fwiw.
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The Tacoma's fuel filter is actually in the white plastic fuel pump assembly, not a rust proof metal container. I don't think we have that one talked about in the article. You can unclip the plastic housing and pull out the filter.
The article is 8 years old, so it's plastic now.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:46 PM   #24
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2004 is actually when the 2nd gen went into production.
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If you swap out the fuel pump with one from URD (something I would recommend if you are S/C) it has an external replaceable filter.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:46 PM   #26
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Gotcha. But most all cars and trucks in the past 30 years have plastic tanks. I am not really worried about this one It just seemed odd. I build and tune some high horsepower cars and currenly building a Lightning and If you ignore the filter on these machines you will be quickly throwng a $20,000 motor in the trash.

I still don't know much of anything about the Tocomas but the sock in most any other truck does't catch trash less than 70 microns because to tight of a filter on the suction end will burn up a filter and it only takes a 10 micron particle to clog an injector. All the inj. cleaner in the world won't fix that. Just something to think about if your getting poor mpg's or think you've lost a little power.
Actually an injector can be seized open or closed or partially open by skin cells which are way less than 10 microns. Each injector also has a lifetime filter pressed into the inlet that is a 1 micron filter. There is no reason to replace either of these as they were designed and tested to last the life of the engine. Too many sweating the load about nothing. I work for a worldwide mfg of fuel injectors... and have for over 17 years.
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I work for a worldwide mfg of fuel injectors... and have for over 17 years.
So that makes you one of those dumb engineers who doesn't realize that fuel filters have to be changed every 10,000 miles with the plugs just like we did back in '69?
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:48 AM   #28
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So that makes you one of those dumb engineers who doesn't realize that fuel filters have to be changed every 10,000 miles with the plugs just like we did back in '69?
Some people just cannot handle the truth. :|
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Now if the pump sock in the tank has enough surface area to get the filtering down fine enough to be sufficient by itself...thats what I was wanting to know. Then I wouldn't be concerned with adding an inline.
How could anyone convince you that is true?
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How could anyone convince you that is true?
Tens of millions of trouble-free miles apparently aren't going to do it.


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Old 05-26-2012, 01:26 PM   #32
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Considering that people get 100's of thousands of miles on these trucks. I really don't think the fuel filter is an issue.
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Why not just add a suitable high pressure filter on the frame just after the fuel tank if you are concerned... The fuel lines are easily accessible...BMW used to use some good high pressure fuel filters on the e46 models.
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Where would this "sludge" be coming from? It is refined through filters, it is filtered as it is pumped into your vehicle. Unless you routinely fuel up out of rusty 55 gallon drums in Nigeria, then there should be no harmful particles floating around in your fuel tank.
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What point are you trying to make? The filters in place do not clean themselves. Doesn't matter if an injector filter catches objects down to .0001 microns, once it's clogged, it's clogged. The element might be designed to last a lifetime, but what good does that do once it is full. Do you have any idea how many rods have been sent through the side of countless blocks and valves that have been fried due to injectors clogging up?

Now if the pump sock in the tank has enough surface area to get the filtering down fine enough to be sufficient by itself...thats what I was wanting to know. Then I wouldn't be concerned with adding an inline.
The point I am making is an additional filter is not needed nor required. Those that think otherwise are completely wrong.

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Do you have any idea how many rods have been sent through the side of countless blocks and valves that have been fried due to injectors clogging up?
Yes. Very damn few. 99.9% of all blown engines due to sticking injectors ( as in stuck open ) is due to contamination that happened during the injector manufacture and not after it was installed in a vehicle. Most of the time this will occur during the first few hundred miles of vehicle operation.

An injector that sticks closed will usually only cause a miss-fire and a code for that bank or cylinder.

If you are getting clogged filters you need to get your gasoline from somewhere else.
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