Originally Posted by Hans Moleman
If you want to compare it to a 5.0 Mustang, try comparing them to the new 5.0L making 420hp on 87 octane gas.
Now why would I want to do that? Don't forget, those cars also weigh substantially less then what our 4.0 has to haul as well.
I had a 05 GTO with over 450 WHEEL horsepower (not flywheel horsepower like the mustang's 420HP) that I could run 87 on all day as well, with a compression ratio of 11.0, which is hardly a low amount of horsepower and a low compression ratio by any means, that thing rocked my world and mostly everyones around it, it was so torquey it was ridiculous... I'm hardly impressed by any high output engine cranking out big powaz running on 87 gas nowadays. The magic is all in the tuning.
The only thing you are getting out of 91 octane vs. 87 is a slower burning more stable petro really, nothing more out of it. The closer you bring the piston quench to the valves the less chance of detonation and knock, which allows you the ability to run a lower octane like the standard 87. So in theory you could be running a CR of over 12.5 and up ^^ without ever having to use "premium" gas.
Like I said, at the end of the day I'm more impressed with torque numbers because that's what gets you moving. I could give less of a damn about HP, because that's the figure which just sells cars.
Originally Posted by KenLyns
Comparison with contemporary V6 used in competing trucks/SUVs:
F-150 base 3.7L V6 non-turbo: 302 hp @ 6500 rpm, 278 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Jeep Grand Cherokee base 3.6L V6: 290 hp, 260 lb-ft
Nissan Frontier V6: 266 hp @ 5600 rpm, 284 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Compared to these, the Taco's V6 is deficient in power and torque.
Don't forget, those other guys are probably not using a more true to life way of testing their horsepower where yota is.
Stop getting so hung up on numbers and base your facts on the real life performance vs. the competitors if it bothers you that much.