2012 v6 synthetic or not?

Thank all of you for the input on my 2012 tacoma towing. we have the tow package and the weight is well in the limits. I have run ford 360s, 351s, 330s, etc on over 200k with havoline 10-30 and never had a problem. So i think i will stay with non syn. oil. thanks to all, catgrader.http://i.twstatic.net/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

 

I couldn't agree more.

I run Mobil 1 w/ Wix filters every 5k, on both my '01 325i (230k miles) and '02 4Runner (260k miles). Both cars are still running strong. Same interval on my wife's '13 Durango Citadel. Once I buy a '14 Tacoma, I'll continue the process on it, w/ Mobil 1.

Yes, the synthetic oil will last longer, but the filters won't and honestly, why take a chance. Preventative maintenance usually pays for itself in the long run.

 

I just sold my old 1988 Toyota pickup. It only had 206K miles on it, but I put Mobil 1 15w50 in it since shortly after I bought it new. I changed the oil ever 5K miles and never needed to add any between oil changes, even though after that over 200K miles and 26 years, the seals were moist from slight leaking

The discussion here sounds just like on Porsche forums - Mobil 1 is crap, long oil change intervals, etc. Mobil pays manufacturers to recommend their oil, whether it's Porsche, Ferrari, Corvette, Cadillac, etc. Before Mobil 1, Shell paid Porsche to push their oil as factory recommended. From reading things like BITOG and talking to mechanics, all the oils today are OK as long as you stick with manufacturer's oil change interval recommendations

I spend a lot of time talking to my Porsche mechanic buddy, who is quite the skeptic. Here's what I've picked up from him over the years: The push to longer oil change intervals is from the Government; they want less oil usage and to reduce consumption, so less oil to dispose of. Car makers go along because it's the Government and they can tout less expensive car operating costs. All car makers are in the same boat. From his discussions with Mobil 1 techs at Porsche training, the synthetic oil doesn't break down, but the additives do, the filters can only filter crap for so many miles before they stop doing a good job filtering. If you replace the filter, drain and filter the oil and add fresh additives, a synthetic oil should last forever if you don't go beyond the operating characteristics (e.g., overheat the oil and burn it). For all that effort, you might as well just do an oil change and call it a day

In the grand scheme of things, I view oil changes as cheap insurance. I keep my vehicles a long time, and my goal is to make the cost of fill ups or oil changes exceed depreciation. After 26+ years of my old truck (I'm in California), I also noticed when I went for smog tests, the emissions numbers were lower if I recently had an oil change compared to if it had been almost 5,000 miles. I only sold it because the rust was getting so bad it leaked everywhere when it rained and I couldn't talk on my phone over 40 MPH because all the body rust holes whistled so loud

For my new Tacoma, I plan to change the oil every 5K miles with Mobil 1. I was astounded to see in the maintenance manual the recommended oil weight is only 0w20, but figure that's just so Toyota can meet fuel economy targets and has nothing to do with what the engine really needs.

 

Here is what Toyota Says, find your vehicle and read the table. easy peezy

http://rav4world.com/pdf/T-TT-0005-10.pdf

 

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/

 

What are the best shocks for my Tacoma? I never take it off road just drive and do pull a travel trailer!!!thank you!

 

He's been a member since 2012.

But good advice.