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Old 12-26-2012, 08:42 AM   #21
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Leave it alone. The "rust" actually forms a protective barrier. Why do you think the don't paint highway overpasses?
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:47 AM   #22
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Leave it alone. The "rust" actually forms a protective barrier. Why do you think the don't paint highway overpasses?

LOL... god I hope your not a mechanic.

tell that to this guy




OP - never leave parts to rust. Prevent rust whenever you can because once it starts it's much harder to control.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:54 AM   #23
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:10 AM   #24
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100% normal for some parts to instantly rust once they leave factory

for nuts and bolts, that is why mechanics have cutoff torches. most all cars will
need something burned off/heated up/hammered/chiseled to replace a part someday

now, if you see rust on a painted part, then there is an issue
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for any of this rust under the vehicle (except hot parts) just blast some Krown or
Boeshield on it, cosmoline,....any of the corrosion protection stuff...on a regular basis,
and it will stave it off... and can prevent use of torches later on to remove stuff
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:21 AM   #25
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Welcome to TW, TacoNate! A moderator (Brunes) and I work together near you - on the Naval air station in Belle Chasse.

As others have said, all should be fine w/ your truck. As far as Fluid Film goes, we use it on our Coast Guard helos since they routinely operate in salt air environments and are often covered in salt spray. It's a thick product and would seem to attract all sorts of dirt and grime. For those who use it on your trucks, any problems with dirt/sand/dust stuck to your FF-coated frames?
I spent a week blasting around Utah trails with FF freshly applied. There was a thin, uniform layer of Martian red on most everything, but some of that would've happened even without FF. As I've washed the truck since then, a lot of the dust has come off, but the FF remains. I haven't used a borescope inside the enclosed areas, but I'm sure there's a light coating of dust there, too.

I'm not very worried about FF attracting too much dirt. I can wash off the dust easy enough to work on an area, as I'll do before replacing bump stops. After the work is done, I'll splatter a little more on that area. It's not a show truck that needs a spotless undercarriage, and it has no effect on the body paint. If someone demands a clean underside, FF and the like aren't for them, but I doubt they'll like rust much better.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #26
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LOL... god I hope your not a mechanic.

tell that to this guy




OP - never leave parts to rust. Prevent rust whenever you can because once it starts it's much harder to control.

The topic of discussion was about the cast iron components. Rust on stamped steel components, like the frame should be addressed.
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:41 PM   #27
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Thank you!

Thanks, one and all, for the warm welcome! I appreciate it, especially the razziní I got from some of you.

This is my second Tacoma, and my first new one. I lost my previous one, which I loved, because it got a little Ďmoistí in Hurricane Katrina. The last seven years Iíve had an old Ranger which did honorable service hauling everything from two-by lumber to top soil as I rebuilt after the storm. When the Ranger appeared to have two wheels in the grave I decided to take the plunge with a new Tacoma.

I'm still a little disappointed that there was so much rust on my brand new vehicle's front end. I mean, sure, you guys make a good point- Bare metal will rust, and cast parts will rust fast, but why is there so much uncoated metal surface to begin with? We have the technology, itís called paint. Iím not expecting nickel plating, just paint. Beyond the machined surfaces, I found it especially disconcerting that the control arm bolts are already rusting. If that's what they look like after a few hundred miles, what will they look like after tens of thousands of miles when they might need to be loosened for service? Will the rusting over the years weaken them? That's not just a hassle, but potentially it could be a safety issue. Call me anally retentive, but itís 2012, I just expect better from a first world manufacturer.

The flecks of rust on the frame rails and inside a few holes was disappointing too. Decades ago, I used to work at the Ford frame plant at the Rouge Complex in Dearborn, MI. All the truck frames there were treated in a chromate solution and then dip-coated in paint to prevent rust. And that was 25 years ago. What's up, Toyota?

Let me address you guysí points, trying to credit and thank everyone for their kind and thoughtful contributions:

Maxamillion2345, OffroadToy, and DoorDing-
I found Fluid Film on the Web site for OíReilly Auto Parts. When I went to my local OíReilly outlet today, none of the staff there had heard of the product. We found it on their system and theyíve ordered it for me. It should be here in a few days. Thanks for the tip!

JNome-
I looked for a shop that does undercoating around here. Iíve discovered that we donít have nearby shops that do that here in ďThe Sowf.Ē By nearby, I mean closer than Corpus Christi, TX. The only Ziebart outlet around here only does auto glass. Timeís ticking and I should get it done while the truck is still new, and Iíll keep lookingÖ

DR Da_da-
Irrelevant to this thread, but I am a huge fan of the Coasties in their helos. Their work during Katrina was nothing short of heroic. The whole N.O. area will never forget their incredible skill and bravery. Hey, is someone slicing onions around here? Sniff. Damn onions. Best wishes for the New Year to everyone at Belle Chasse NAS!

Gasgasman-
Steel does not form a protective oxidation layer like aluminum does. Cast iron does better than steel, but it all crumbles to dust eventually. Unless itís made of COR-TEN(tm) steel, oxidation is not going to help. Also, they should be painting highway overpasses, our infrastructure is going to hell. There is no excuse for ignoring its maintenance. But thatís off-topic.

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Loopback, you have the same IP as I do! Who woulda thunk it? Computers aside, I have to disagree with your assumption. I think that everything that isnít welded at the factory should be disassemble-able (if thatís a word.) That is, a cutting torch should not need to be used to free up a normal service item like steering and suspension linkages. Just my opinion. Heat? Yes. Persuasion? Yes. Cutting torch? No, not for a service item, other than for exhaust parts and a few others. Címon, itís the 21st Century, we can do better than that. Toyota can too. As for painted parts. See my comments on the frame, above.

Well, thatís it. Sorry for the long post. And thanks for the help and the welcome, everyone! I spend a lot of time on my favorite motorbike forum, and this Tacoma forum seems to be as passionate, responsive, and informative as that one. Iím impressed. And grateful. All my best to all of you for the New Year.

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Old 12-26-2012, 06:54 PM   #28
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fluid film or waxoil or por15 if you want a really involved job
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #29
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Where the hell are the CV shafts?
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:04 PM   #30
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It's 2wd.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:06 PM   #31
Not very sporting to fire on an unarmed opponent.
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I bought a brand new Tacoma Prerunner a few weeks back. It now has about 750 miles on it. I looked at the underside and this is what I found- Rust.

The steering knuckle, control arm bolts, and tie-rod and sway bar mounts are all rusting. Already. There are surface rust points on the frame and in a couple of the holes in the frame. The dealer said this is normal. i don't believe them. Am I wrong? Is this to be expected? What should I do about this? Is the new Toyota owner expected to complete his truck's paint job?





BTW, I've only driven through one rain storm and have never driven it in salt water. Never taken it off pavement.
Holy shit that truck is clean
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:11 PM   #32
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It's 2wd.
Joking. Very clean though.
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Joking. Very clean though.
Hey, it's new. But I bet my GSA's been filthier than your Vstrom.

You kids kill me. RWD only, FTW!
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:46 PM   #34
Not very sporting to fire on an unarmed opponent.
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My '09 had more rust than that on it when it was brand new on the lot up here
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Unpainted metal, meet moisture, and have oxidation!
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Like OZ-T my 10' had that much or more when I first got it off the lot in Alaska.
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Hey, mine's rear wheel drive most of the time.
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Move roughly 1400 miles due west, right down I-10 and you won't have to worry about such things.

One of the perks of living in the desert but there are times I miss that wet stuff that falls from the sky.
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Where the hell are the CV shafts?
They rusted off
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Unpainted metal, meet moisture, and have oxidation!
It's worse than that - when two different metals are touching, you get galvanic corrosion, which will basically accelerate the process.
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