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Old 01-31-2013, 07:54 AM   #101
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Oh, your 22........... Nevermind. anyway this thread is for adults, sorry I should have been clear.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:56 AM   #102
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i don't have 35s yet, but i can comment on the wheelbase issue. Like wyatt said earlier, it's about knowing how to use your dimensions to your advantage.
for every high center obstacle out there, there is an equal number of uphill trail sections that your longer wheelbase will ascend more easily than the short wheelbase guys (not just jeeps).

this is a big decision, so it's not just the vehicle you'll have to take into account. do you see yourself living and wheeling at your current trails for a while, or will you possibly move somewhere else? if so, how are the trails there different, and what set of vehicle dimensions will give you more benefit. with your experience, i'm sure you've seen different vehicles excel over one another based on terrain type.
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Hey Colin, no I don't see myself moving anytime soon and even if I did I wouldn't see my decision as being any different. I agree with a longer wheelbase climbing better. I got the 4 door Jk so it has a 116'' wheelbase so still a bit long for some trails. The general consensus for rock crawling is that about 110'' (give or take)wheelbase is ideal. Individuals will disagree of course based on their own experience but if you put it to a vote 110 would be pretty much where you want to be.

That said, I'm not going to exclusively rock crawl by any means as I like doing a variety of terrain, so the 116'' is going to serve me perfect I suspect. The tacoma at 127, great for open desert or mild wheeling, not so much in other conditions. Either way you give up a little going shorter or longer, for me it was about finding what was going to work best for my needs.

I have looked at a lot of the jeepspeed stuff and some individual testing of production model JK's for races like KOH and it can also be built to go very fast through the desert as well.

This is the direction I'm going sort of a jack of all trades vehicle. I wont be the best at either end of the spectrum rock crawling or pre-running I just want to go out with either crowd and do respectable.
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Always run into this guy on the trails..funny how it happens that way..offroading is a small world. His jeep his pretty badass. When they are built right they can perform and be reliable, but that goes with any rig
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Pretty nice rig. Yep I think the discussion of which is better is old and played. Both Toyota and Jeep are at the top of the food chain for offroad. Toyota does a bit better in open desert and Jeep does a bit better in tight trails. Pick your poison.

I'm speaking of production based rigs that are suitable for daily drivers also. The types of rigs mere mortals can own, build and drive.

If I put $750,000 into a school bus I could probably build it to do anything.
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It appears the childeren are back at it again. What kind of coward sends someone negative rep but wont put their name? I guess thats what shitty parenting gets you.

Anyway no need to send an anonymous note. Grow up and be a man, or just go smoke pole and stay out of the thread.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:59 PM   #108
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Hey Colin, no I don't see myself moving anytime soon and even if I did I wouldn't see my decision as being any different. I agree with a longer wheelbase climbing better. I got the 4 door Jk so it has a 116'' wheelbase so still a bit long for some trails. The general consensus for rock crawling is that about 110'' (give or take)wheelbase is ideal. Individuals will disagree of course based on their own experience but if you put it to a vote 110 would be pretty much where you want to be.

That said, I'm not going to exclusively rock crawl by any means as I like doing a variety of terrain, so the 116'' is going to serve me perfect I suspect. The tacoma at 127, great for open desert or mild wheeling, not so much in other conditions. Either way you give up a little going shorter or longer, for me it was about finding what was going to work best for my needs.

I have looked at a lot of the jeepspeed stuff and some individual testing of production model JK's for races like KOH and it can also be built to go very fast through the desert as well.

This is the direction I'm going sort of a jack of all trades vehicle. I wont be the best at either end of the spectrum rock crawling or pre-running I just want to go out with either crowd and do respectable.
understand completely where you are coming from. 110 is indeed a great middleground, so the 116 of the 4 door will be nice. long enough to handle well at speed, while not doing front and back flips every time you go up or down a hill, yet short enough to yeild a noticable difference in tight trails and clearance angles over the tacoma.

the expedition and overland genre is fantastic subset of offroading, but in it's purest form, the trails seem tend to be easier than the norm for a lot of us. I am going for a dual purpose truck (fast and crawling), and the best was i would describe it was agressive expedition/overland. sounds like you want the same thing.

I'm sure you've seen it, but Icon has a fantastic video of their suspension on a 4-door wrangler absolutely flying.
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Why was name calling introduced into this thread!? Is this a "well he did it so I could do it" case!? Come on now. Part of "being a grownup" is not being a hypocrite and name calling when someone does or says something u don't like. Not trying to start shit so name calling towards me is inappropriate. Just figured I'd point that out.

So anyway, glad u are getting what u want. U should enjoy the upsides to the Jeep.
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Got the 4 door. FYI this is not a thread to bash one vehicle or the other, especially if you do not own a 2013 JK so have no experience with the current model year. All other years of Jeep are irrelevant to the discussion.

Once I take possession of the vehicle I will give an honest review and assessment of the 2013 JKU. I don't have brand loyalty so if I feel something is better than the other, its out with the old in with the new. Same reason i did not buy a 2011 JK and instead got a 2011 Tacoma. At that time in that year, the Tacoma was the right choice for me. Things have changed.
amen! can't judge two vehicles when you no has experience with BOTH of them.

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I like how you think! Gonna start out with the more modest 37 though

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the expedition and overland genre is fantastic subset of offroading, but in it's purest form, the trails seem tend to be easier than the norm for a lot of us. I am going for a dual purpose truck (fast and crawling), and the best was i would describe it was agressive expedition/overland. sounds like you want the same thing.

I'm sure you've seen it, but Icon has a fantastic video of their suspension on a 4-door wrangler absolutely flying.
Yea I like to do a wide variety of stuff for sure and honestly my truck would do most of that just fine. Maybe I have a case of "grass is always greener, we shall see!

I don't think I saw the ICON video I will look for it, thanks

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amen! can't judge two vehicles when you no has experience with BOTH of them.

You COULD judge, it just wouldn't have much meaning
I just know there are at least a handful of folks who have been in my shoes and may get something from this thread, just wanted to offer some honest feedback regarding my decsion so down the road it may help someone either decide to stay the course with the Tacoma or look to something else more appropriate.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:11 PM   #113
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Awesome video, and crazy how well the jeep does.......the guy that built that floppy tire carrier should be slapped though

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Old 01-31-2013, 07:47 PM   #115
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Well I have had both. So it was a 2008 JK and not a 2013...thats like saying a 2013 Tacoma is all that different from a 2008 Tacoma. Its the same model, different year...minor variations but overall the same vehicle...oh well.

I have had both and wheeled both. I would take the taco hands down over the Jeep for the reasons I previously stated. I just didnt like the leaky door seals that they could fix, the wind noise, and topping off the oil every time I gassed up.

Hope your experience turns out better than mine.
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Always run into this guy on the trails..funny how it happens that way..offroading is a small world. His jeep his pretty badass. When they are built right they can perform and be reliable, but that goes with any rig
Yeah, those JK's are pretty cool when they are built right. Jeep finally got it right with that one.
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Oh, your 22........... Nevermind. anyway this thread is for adults, sorry I should have been clear.
Lol. Maybe you're confused. You threw your maturity right out the window with that comment.

I've been wheeling for all 22 of these years. And I'm an automotive tech. I know a little about jeeps. But I'm sure you know everything about everything, being older. Hahaha.
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Always run into this guy on the trails..funny how it happens that way..offroading is a small world. His jeep his pretty badass. When they are built right they can perform and be reliable, but that goes with any rig
oh this make me miss my JKU. I know that is blasphemy here. sorry
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