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Old 01-22-2013, 02:12 PM   #1
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Bearing noise at slack throttle at highwat speeds

(highway speeds)Going 60mph on a level road, I get a grumble. Not at accel nor at decel, slack throttle, it happens. It's almost like the noise you get when threading a large nut down a threaded rod, or holding a Timken bearing by the inner race and spinning the cage. The location of the noise is very difficult to pinpoint
New ujoints, front wheel bearings, 103k miles, one piece driveshaft.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:19 AM   #2
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:12 AM   #3
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Still looking. Noise is getting worse
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:27 PM   #4
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Well... Road speed makes a difference with the speed and intensity of the noise. There is no difference with engine speed, nor with gear selection.
There were no shavings in the diff, xfer case, nor trans lube. I suspect from the trans output to the rear of the drivetrain, but I would like to hear from someone else before I start tearing into anything.
I have till middle of May to get it fixed...
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honestly, no idea, but maybe its gear chatter somewhere as at "slack" throttle its likely switching from loaded, to reverse loaded very quickly?

check driveline lash at the rear end? im digging deep on this lol
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:37 PM   #6
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Look at your carrier bearing in the middle of your drive shafts.
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Look at your carrier bearing in the middle of your drive shafts.
One peice drive shaft.

If it was bearings it would be more of a wirring noise to it. Diff has more of a worrr noise... In my experience.
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One peice drive shaft.

If it was bearings it would be more of a wirring noise to it. Diff has more of a worrr noise... In my experience.
My bad I reread and saw 1 piece shaft
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Have you done anything to the rearend. Possible axle bearings or the 3rd member? Can you get the truck in the air safley and run it maybe on a lift or something?
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20 mph on jack stands made no obvious noises via stethoscope.
Only mod is the lift. New ujoints, no abormal slop in drivetrain.
No shavings in any gear lubes.
I'm going to hunt for TSBs and look to see if there are any sealed bearings in the trans and xfer case. It has to be something from the output shaft of the trans on back, since it's road speed related.
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Dealer wants $120 to take a look at it...FML.
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How recently did you change your wheel bearings? One could have been bad or damaged during the install and worn out prematurely. Have you checked any of the wheels for play or check the tranny output shaft for play for that matter?
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Dave...

I had this same symptom above 70mph on the way home last weekend from gulches while running my 1 piece driveshaft spare.

Haven't had it up to that speed since then, but will keep you posted (please do the same for me). I also suspect rear drivetrain, particularly u-joint or slip yoke. Tq on all the bolts was good. Hoping when I torched the stock driveshaft I didn't cause a problem with the trans output.
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(highway speeds)Going 60mph on a level road, I get a grumble. Not at accel nor at decel, slack throttle, it happens. It's almost like the noise you get when threading a large nut down a threaded rod, or holding a Timken bearing by the inner race and spinning the cage. The location of the noise is very difficult to pinpoint
New ujoints, front wheel bearings, 103k miles, one piece driveshaft.

Any ideas?
its the driveshaft... they arent long enough on the reg cabs. its not a big deal, nothing is "wrong" per say, but if you flip your driveshaft around, it will eliminate the noise. thats what i did with my reg cab, and it was fine. a better fix would be to have your driveshaft lengthened. fwiw...
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Seems like most reg cabs do it. Flipping the driveshaft around usually helps. Mines done it since the day I bought the truck.
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Worth a try... In progress shortly, will post details.
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Worth a try... In progress shortly, will post details.
worth a try? that the fix. its not u-joints, or a carrier bearing. its your driveshaft. it needs to be lengthened. either spend the $150 to get it lengthened, or flip it for free. either way, there is nothing wrong with your truck, and nothing is broken.
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worth a try? that the fix. its not u-joints, or a carrier bearing. its your driveshaft. it needs to be lengthened. either spend the $150 to get it lengthened, or flip it for free. either way, there is nothing wrong with your truck, and nothing is broken.
Out of curiosity, how does flipping the shaft solve the problem?

I believe OME sells a drive shaft spacer. If length is the issue, that could be another solution.
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Flipping it moved the noise to the rear of the truck, and it doesn't do it as long.
Also, It no longer has a vibe at 60MPH anymore.
So, no, it is still not fixed. I just need to get another driveshaft. Any recommendations on who to go through? I don't like spacers. They might be nice for a temp fix till I save for a new driveshaft though.
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Reading up on the spacers, I see that they are a bad idea. More extreme shaft angle and a higher likelyhood of running out of slip joint travel=smashed xfer case. New shaft it is.
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