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Old 01-29-2013, 12:57 PM   #41
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I have a question about locking hubs, if there already locked and I'm in 4wd and I put it in 2wd do I have to get out and ulock the hubs right away or could I drive for a bit then unlock them?
You can drive for a bit before you unlock them. When I had them and did that my gas mileage went to crap.

Also hated getting out and putting them in or out in the crappy weather that dictated you needed them. Also having to have a pair of pliers around to help turn the hub in or out also sucked.

I had to have one of the hubs rebuilt on the vehicle I had that had the manual hubs but I've never had an issue with the autos.
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You ever driven on a Texas road that has is just barely wet after not seeing rain for several weeks/months? It's almost as bad as black ice. I've almost spun out pulling out of my neighborhood while in 2WD without hardly touching the gas. 4WD can come in handy even in the rain.

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Yep make sure you don't have any loss of traction while engaging. I think that could make for a bad day.
I miss the days of getting out and locking the hubs, but I guess I'm just old school.
I disagree you need traction when engaging 4hi, makes no difference at all.

I DO agree about missing the manual lockers and manual xfer case. Was a nice simple mechanical system. And you could keep the front hubs locked 100% of the time if you so chose, then just shift the xfer case in and out of 4hi when needed.

Also in fact, with manual lockers you didn't need to actually put the truck in 4WD to "exercise" the system. Just lock the front hubs once a month for 15-20 miles and that did it. Lord I miss it.

And engaging 4hi is fine and dandy on the move up to 60 as stated above, just flick the switch. Of course you still may have to dick around and flick it back and forth a couple times, another strike against it compared to a manual system. Lord, I miss the manual system.

EDIT: Have to amend my disagreement about traction. After reading a few more posts I see the point. Don't want wheels spinning/on the gas hard and flip the switch. I'll push the clutch in then flip the switch (an advantage of a manual trans, by the way)
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And engaging 4hi is fine and dandy on the move up to 60 as stated above, just flick the switch. Of course you still may have to dick around and flick it back and forth a couple times, another strike against it compared to a manual system. Lord, I miss the manual system.
this got me yesterday. I was messing with hi-lo and it was beeping at
me...I was doing my move to get it to sync and it still would not
stop beeping until I farted around with the selector and started from
square 1 again. friggin 4runner would have been able to figure it out
because the throw to lo is a lever in my hand, not a request sent to
the ECU for a response. Tacoma...nope...it will force me to sit and futz with it.

Oh well...overall the VSC/Trac/Auto-LSD/A-Trac/Locker computer
controlled BS is better...but yup I miss my old Bronco which was
a box with an engine, wheels, manual hubs, and unstoppable.
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When i first bought the truck I would be completely stopped to switch 2HI to 4HI, until one of the rear wheels lock up on me when I went to go. Had to shift back to 2HI and it was fine.

Since then always moving slow when 2HI to 4HI and hasn't ever happened again.
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I believe the card that comes in the visor says you can switch to 4hi going up to 50 mph... just be driving straight when you do it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
this got me yesterday. I was messing with hi-lo and it was beeping at
me...I was doing my move to get it to sync and it still would not
stop beeping until I farted around with the selector and started from
square 1 again. friggin 4runner would have been able to figure it out
because the throw to lo is a lever in my hand, not a request sent to
the ECU for a response. Tacoma...nope...it will force me to sit and futz with it.

Oh well...overall the VSC/Trac/Auto-LSD/A-Trac/Locker computer
controlled BS is better...but yup I miss my old Bronco which was
a box with an engine, wheels, manual hubs, and unstoppable.
Hah! Took me a little bit to put together the 127.0.0.1 and the /etc/hosts location. You're a UNIX guy. Nice.

Yeah, there's some advantages to the total nanny package, but I do miss the simplicity of my Gen I. It engaged instantly every time with manual control.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:17 PM   #48
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Using 4wd for the rain, I've heard it all now.
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You can drive. With hubs locked in 2wd its no different than having auto hubs basically. Your cv's are spinning, but aren't coupled to the the front diff.
Actually, locking the manual front hubs does turn the front diff. That's why you could "exercise" the 4wd system without putting the transfer case in 4wd. The point of exercising the 4wd system is to make sure the front hubs and front diff gets turned.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:52 PM   #51
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Driving at a reasonable cautious speed may help as well, some ppl think 4wd is gonna get you out of every dangerous slippery situation or make you invinsible, when it reality driving skill & experience works wonders. Would I like a 4wd one day for better off road ability? Sure I would, but it annoys me how some think they can drive like it's a sunny day because they have it. I've never had issues with a 2wd in the rain driving responsibly.
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Driving at a reasonable cautious speed may help as well, some ppl think 4wd is gonna get you out of every dangerous slippery situation or make you invinsible, when it reality driving skill & experience works wonders. Would I like a 4wd one day for better off road ability? Sure I would, but it annoys me how some think they can drive like it's a sunny day because they have it. I've never had issues with a 2wd in the rain driving responsibly.
It's more an issue of driving on the edge of rain to freezing rain from what I've seen above. Or hydroplaning. It's not a big deal to put the truck into 4hi if it's raining, not gonna hurt it. There's just enough slippage to keep it happy. As ppl have stated above all it takes is for that light back end to kick out only one time and you can be in big trouble, especially in traffic. Better to be safe than sorry, if you have it use it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:25 PM   #53
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Using 4wd for the rain, I've heard it all now.
This has been brought up a few times. Since the truck is front-heavy, 4WD makes handling more predictable.

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Driving at a reasonable cautious speed may help as well, some ppl think 4wd is gonna get you out of every dangerous slippery situation or make you invinsible, when it reality driving skill & experience works wonders. Would I like a 4wd one day for better off road ability? Sure I would, but it annoys me how some think they can drive like it's a sunny day because they have it. I've never had issues with a 2wd in the rain driving responsibly.
No need to intentionally handicap yourself, though. The Tacoma in 2WD handles worse than a FWD Camry in the rain.
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This has been brought up a few times. Since the truck is front-heavy, 4WD makes handling more predictable.
Slow down
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^Need to at least keep up with the masses of FWD cars on the road. Can't have the rear end spinning out every time I make a turn at the intersection.

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fwiw...
if you are driving with your foot on the gas so hard that you find 4wd in
rain on pavement is the best option, then you really need a different vehicle...one that has an AWD system and not just a part-time system like Tacoma has...
If Toyota wasn't cheap and made a lockable center diff like the GX470's an option, I would've bought it.
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Slow down
Can't do it. Some of us like to be the fastest truck on the road. It's not smart, I know that, but that's how it is. Nice to have the Tacoma if that's your attitude.
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Using 4wd for the rain, I've heard it all now.
I do it during heavy rain while on the highway or freeway, not cause i'm worried about traction, but just to try and meet the 10 miles a month in 4 wheel drive as per the manual.
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Actually a few nights ago we got some freezing rain in the evening. When I came to a stop at a stop sign on a maybe 30 degree grade I had to go to 4wd because the rears were spinning not going anywhere.
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definitely while moving, I think the truck actually struggles to switch into 4H when you aren't moving. 4L stopped and in neutral though, thats obvious.
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