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Old 03-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #1
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Another question about lift kits

I've been debating on lifing my truck for a while now and want to do it now. On of the reasons is when i put my four wheeler in the back it makes my truck sag too much. Theirs a local shop that said they can add a leaf in the rear and recurve my leafs to get a three inch lift and add another 700 lbs to my payload but they don't do front lifts. Ive talked to two shops now and they both told me to do blocks in the front even though I was originaly planning on doing 5100 Bilstein Shocks and Eibach front coils. One shop said the truck would drive horriable with that set up on the front and the stock leafs in the rear. Now I'm confused
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seems like a lot of trouble to go thru without being able to see certified results,a lot of guys say the billy/eibach combo is really nice.i'm currently running billys all around,with fronts set at .85 on stock front springs(trd sport dcsb) with factory tsb rear springs(four leaf as opposed to three)my truck is comfortable yet sporty to drive...not too sure about weight capasity,i rarely carry anthing heavier that two male german sheperds in the bed...call the guys at DOWNSOUTH MOTORSPORTS,i'm sure they'll steer you in the right direction.dealing with a bunch of"bubbas and yah-hoos" could cost you more in the long run!i'd steer clear of anyone recommending spacers,blocks and re-arcing leaf springs...most of those guys only have cutting torches and hammers as their main means of destroying your truck!keep your load ranges in mind as you research lifts...don't spend your cash too quickly,and don't allow yourself to get overwhelmed by the many choices available...just keep in mind what you want,also...be aware that if you go over a certain height in the front,new "uca's" may be required to get your alingment correct...have at it man!
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The main reason is for the bike in the back it's about 600 lbs. Then add everything thing else for a weekend extra gas, generator, beer and all the gear it's like 800lbs back there. That's too much for the stock leafs to handle. So I figured if I was going to spend the money getting a leaf added by this highly recommended shop that just does leafs then I should just pay a bit more and lift the whole truck. But I can't find any truck shops around me that do full lifts.
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any good shop will be able to swap suspension parts, it's really simple to do.

grab heavy duty leaf packs for the rear, lift the front with anything but spacers and you'll be good to go
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Go with the Old Man Emu Dakars for the rear (Daks) I love them and have them on my truck. They don't sag very much at all. Toytec sells them for like $400. Loaded my truck down before and just squats a little compared to the stockers. There is also an extra leaf you can buy if you want to have more load capacity.

A small block in the rear is ok but you don't want to go crazy tall. Full leaf packs are way better than a block. Axle wrap can be an issue with tall blocks, bad bad. Plus you don't get anymore load capacity from it, just lift height. Blocks also don't add flex when your offloading if you choose to do so because its still the stock spring geometry .

If you want load carrying ability like I did for myself, look in to a nice set of aftermarket leaf packs you won't be disappointed . Be careful there ae packs for just flexing and wheeling and then there are ones that are designed to flex good and handle weight also.

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Oh, and if you have a few buddy's you can install a lift on your truck just using basic hand tools and a weekend.

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blocks with stock leaf packs will cause your leafs to go into negative arch whenever you go over a bump if you have weight in the bed; it'll be a matter of time before your leafs break/your pack becomes a wet noodle
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X2!

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billies all around set fronts to 0.85 and get helper springs for extra wt capacity w/out going crazy w/ money
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If I went with the full Bilstein Adjustable lift kit with 5100 shocks and AAL in the rear does anyone know how much payload that AAL would add?
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depends on the AAL.. but the rest of ur leaf pack is "soft metal" so the AAL will end up failing with time...i would get spring helpers for a heavy load and AAL..
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If I went with the full Bilstein Adjustable lift kit with 5100 shocks and AAL in the rear does anyone know how much payload that AAL would add?
dont haul anything thats heavier than ur truck is RATED at......for me its around 1300 IIRC.

remember to count supplies, passengers and ANYTHING in the cab.


too many variables come into play with payload and safety....its not that simple to safely add more weight than rated just by throwing on an AAL, please be careful.
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There "might" be a GB coming for the IronMan Lift soon
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Probably close to 1300 fully loaded. But its not for when my truck is fully loaded. Even with just my atv which weighs 600 if I hit a any decent size bumps in the road and theirs tons around here it feels like my rear suspension is bottoming out

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Probably close to 1300 fully loaded. But its not for when my truck is fully loaded. Even with just my atv which weighs 600 if I hit a any decent size bumps in the road and theirs tons around here it feels like my rear suspension is bottoming out

I run eibachs up front with 5100's set at 0

out back is an Icon progressive and 5100s

it handles weight fine and rides smooth.....ur other options are a single aal, or a new leaf pack.

either way if ur bone stock and have 3 leaves, 2+1....then u ARE more than likely bottoming out....the trucks SUCK at carrying anything beyond 500lbs in the back bone stock.
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Wheelers now offers a HD 3 leaf AAL, but i would think a full leaf pack with dual overloads would be better like dakars or the ironman leafs
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I do have a 3+1 leaf pack already

And i am looking at trying to lift it 3 inches at the same time
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I do have a 3+1 leaf pack already

And i am looking at trying to lift it 3 inches at the same time
Most add a leafs only offer 2" of lift. Dakars are about 3" or all pro makes full leaf packs also.
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