Bad paint jobs!

I have an 06 Tacoma and I just now noticed that the color of my hood and side panel do not match the rest of my truck. It's a super white. The hood and side panel have no shine...I noticed just recently the color difference because of some significant chipping on my hood. Has anyone else had problems like this??

 

Detail the truck, wash, compound and wax and see if it brings the shine back. I have a 2007 superwhite and have not noticed that.

 

Are you the first owner? My wife had an '06 Corolla she bought certified used and after a few years I noticed the front bumper cover was not as shiny as the rest of the paint. took it off and found hidden crash damage! Super white is really really hard to match perfectly so it could be that those panels were repainted after an accident.

 

Well that sucks...One of the reasons I try to stick to buying new, even if it means I cant get everything I want in the car...You know what you're getting...

 

I have the exact same problem with my 05 but the roof of my truck was not shiny as well. I then had a professional detailer cut and buff the roof and hood. The shine was back but shortly after the shine went away. I didn't have my front left and right fender cut and buff at that time so its pretty dull now. As Pugga said try wash it thoroughly and clay the entire truck then try some compound, polish and wax. When its nicer out here in Washington I'm going to try some different approach to get my shine back.

 

The white is hard to maintain due to it being a single stage paint ( It has no clear coat ).

IAW Toyota if it isn't a pearl or metallic paint it does not have a clear coat.

 

Hmm? Ok, maybe that explains some of the complaints I have heard of crappy paint on here. Mine seems fantastic, but I hear people complaining about paint quality here sometimes. So if you have pearl or metallic it's got a thicker coat?(with the clearcoat)

 

Yeah, I am the first owner that.. that is way I am so bothered by the paint quality of my hood because I always take good care of my truck and I know its never been wrecked or anything.

 

Sorry, but whoever told you that information was incorrect. You have a clear-coat, just not in the traditional sense of a base-coat, clear-coat 2 stage paint job. The difference is that the clear is specially formulated and added to the color. If you did not have a clear coat, the paint would not be protected, nor would it have any shine. The finish would be 100% dull, as paint itself is a flat color.

That being said, be very careful if you are going to do the polishing, as a coarse cutting compound can go through the thin clean on top when you have a single-stage paint job.

 

While on the topic of paint, has anyone seen any paint "runs" beside the hood scoop? What about flaking paint inside of the fog light wells?

I am the second owner, maybe my truck had a crap paint job?

 

Sorry, but: My information came from Toyota. And they are not wrong.

You reaffirmed what I said, It is not Clear Coated. What you described above is Not a " Clear Coat ". It has additives that makes it somewhat shiny, but that is what the issue is. The paint mixed with a shiny additive doesn't protect against the UV radiation near as well as a true clear coat covering the paint. The UV and heat oxidizes the paint and it turns dull. It shines very well with a good detail job. The drawback is it requires more maintenance.

The reason they do not clear coat the super white paint is that it tends to yellow with UV exposure. Which becomes very obvious over the white paint.

 

Sorry, but it IS still a clear coat of a type. The clear coat is what ultimately protects the paint from UV light and other chemicals. While it is a single stage paint, the clear coat chemical is STILL there. The additives are not to make it shiny, the paint is actually mixed with a clear coat chemical that is specially formulated to be directly mixed with the pigment. As it dries, the clear coat chemical will migrate to the surface, protecting the pigment from the UV rays, while the pigment remains on the surface it is applied to. That is one of the reasons you normally should do multiple applications of a single-stage paint job. Chemical bonding. It is still clear coat, just not in the traditional sense, and not near as good of a paint job, or as long lasting as a two-stage system. Learned all of this in the 2 years of auto paint and body courses that I have taken. I also thought that way as well until I took the course study.

This is further supported by the fact that paint does not require an activator. Clear coat does. Single stage paints remain in liquid form until you apply the activator, and then it must be sprayed, or it will go bad.

 

This is what my roof looks like. I've tried everything to save it but, not happening. My buddy who is a pro auto painter said he would repaint the whole roof for me for $250.

 

I will agree that we disagree.

The clear coat doesn't " migrate " to the surface while the pigment bonds to the body. That don't happen. It is mixed and it stays mixed. The pigment tends to settle in the layer of paint leaving more clear enamel on the surface. They do not have near the UV Protection that a two stage paint provides. I'm not saying that is has no UV protection. Just not as well protected as a two stage paint.

Below is a two stage paint:

4. Clear Coat
3. Pigment Coat
2. Primer Coat
1. Metal Layer

Below is a single stage paint:

3. Pigment Coat
2. Primer Coat
1. Metal Layer

Anyway single stage paint sucks, IMO.

 

You win because of the SMOKIN' hot girl in your sig video. Please continue.. oh and put a seatbelt on that girl! she's too good to lose.

 

I will agree that we disagree as well. I have experience in the field. To each his own belief. I will leave it at that as well.

depending on how the paint job is done though, you have:

5: clear coats
4: pigment coats
3: sealer
2: primer
1:substrate (Metal, fiberglass, plastic)

That is a proper paint job. Always apply a sealer before you apply any pigment is what we have always been taught to do.

Either way, I still am firm in what I have said about migration.

 

This is what they say.

 

Dealers will sometimes have to get panels resprayed due to damage in shipping. Plus I believe plastic ages paint differently or takes it differently than metal panels.

 

Yes on my driver side door panels, but I want to say they are from aftermarket painting (someone put pin striping on and clear coated over, which I then peeled off, DUMB), clear coat dripped at the middle of the panels, and they completely skipped the very bottom where the rock guard coating is. Maaco?

$250 doesn't sound bad for a legit paint job on the roof, they wanted $1000 for a complete repaint/blend for my two door panels at a reputable shop.

 

OK. I would try and buff the entire truck at the same time. Don't get crazy with an orbital or you may burn through the clear.
As for the clear or no clear debate, I will say that a single stage paint hasn't been used for quite a while. A two stage paint job is pretty much the standard now a days and has been for a while. As someone who has actually sprayed that color paint I will say that you need a clear coat. You might be able to find a single stage but I doubt it. Take it with a grain of salt. Or a bucket if you feel you need that much.