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Old 02-20-2009, 10:33 AM   #21
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The other weekend i got a ticket at Fiesta Island down in San Diego. I was having a bonfire with my girlfriend then we were packing up and i decided to do a little donut in the sand before we left. I only did about half of a donut in the sand then i left. 30 seconds later a cop pulls me over and said i was offroading and thinks thats what i went there for. I have traffic court in march. should i plead guilty or not guilty?

I have not always had a good driving record. However, I have received a few and when I go to court and the judge ask's how I plead I say guilty with explaination. They will usually as to explain what happened, so I do but the then I go on to say that I have worked very hard at keeping my driving record and I would really like to keep it that way. It ends up getting deferred.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:25 PM   #24
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According to wikipedia -
Types of recreational off-roading

Recreational off-roading is popular among a sub-section of the owners of four wheel drive or all-terrain vehicles and motorcycles. There are numerous categories of off-roading, with something suitable for all levels of experience and equipment.[citation needed]
Some of the major categories of recreational off-roading are listed below.

[edit] Dune bashing


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Main article: Dune bashing
Dune bashing involves driving over sand dunes, frequently associated with tourism in the Middle-East. There are also many state parks in the United States that allow ORVs to drive on them, including the Silver Lake Sand Dunes in Michigan and the Imperial Sand Dunes in California.

[edit] Greenlaning


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Greenlaning or two-tracking is one of the least extreme categories. It is generally suitable for any four wheel drive vehicle, even with factory tires and equipment. The term greenlane refers to the fact that the routes are predominantly along unpaved tracks, forest tracks, or older roadways that may have fallen into disuse. For a lot of greenlaners, the main emphasis is on enjoying the countryside, and accessing areas that may be seldom traveled by motor vehicles, rather than exploring the performance envelope of their vehicle.
Greenlaning is popular among All Wheel Drive (AWD) SUVs with limited off-road capabilities such as the Honda CRV and Toyota RAV4 which were designed for light duty off-roading.[citation needed]

[edit] Mudding (or mud bogging)


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Mudding involves finding a large area of wet mud or clay and attempting to drive as far through it as possible without becoming stuck. Usually, the stock tires supplied with four by four vehicles are completely inadequate for this type of off-roading, and Mud-terrain tires are required. Strongly attached recovery points are also recommended to enable the vehicle to be towed out if it becomes bogged down. Next to traction, momentum is a big factor in success.
This activity has a competitive form known as Mud bogging.[citation needed]

[edit] Rock crawling


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Main article: Rock crawling
Rock crawling is a highly technical category of off-roading. Vehicles are typically modified with larger than stock tires, suspension components that allow greater axle articulation, and changes in the differential (mechanics) gear ratio in order to provide the ideal high torque/low speed operation for rock crawling to traverse obstacles. It is quite common for a rock crawler to have a spotter - an assistant who will go on foot alongside or in front of the vehicle to provide information to the driver on obstacles or areas of terrain that the driver may be unable to see.[citation needed]

[edit] Rock racing

Rock Racing is very similar to rock crawling in the fact that the vehicles are driven over rocks, the difference is that there are no penalties for hitting cones, backing up or winching as is done in rock crawling. Rock racing also involves a degree of high-speed racing not seen in typical rock crawling.[citation needed]

[edit] Formula off-road


Formula off-road


Formula off-road is a high powered version of off-road competition. Vehicles are highly modified or specially built using sand drag tires and long travel suspension components that allow jumps and rough handling and long axle articulation, and a secure roll cage for the driver.[citation needed] Formula off-road cars often use highly tuned V8:s with superchargers & nitrous oxide injection systems. High torque/high speed operation is needed for Formula off-road tracks. Formula off-road originated in Iceland and has since spread to the other Nordic countries. Competitions are often held in sand and gravel quarries where courses are laid out up near vertical pit faces. The vehicles utilize paddle-like tread of sand drag racing tires.[citation needed]

[edit] Trials

Trials are probably the safest form of motorsport.[citation needed] All progress is made at low speed, and the emphasis is on skill rather than finishing first. However, trialing can be highly competitive. There are three traditional forms of off-road trialing.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:26 PM   #25
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I don't think donut falls under dune blasting
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:33 PM   #27
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Lying is lying. You did a donut, you got caught, now pay the fine and be done with it.

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That was a lot of reading i didnt do.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:40 PM   #29
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Really you would lose, did the cop actually see you do it and cops there do know tht people offroad there alot. I told you i use to do it alot before i knew it was illegal but i was just eat it dont wanna BS your way out unless your good.
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Thanks pal for teaching me about it - i'll make sure and put it to use right now.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:50 PM   #32
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The other weekend i got a ticket at Fiesta Island down in San Diego. I was having a bonfire with my girlfriend then we were packing up and i decided to do a little donut in the sand before we left. I only did about half of a donut in the sand then i left. 30 seconds later a cop pulls me over and said i was offroading and thinks thats what i went there for. I have traffic court in march. should i plead guilty or not guilty?
Sounds like some of the cops in San Diego have not changed since I was stationed there in the 70's. They treated guys in the military like real shits. Witnessed plenty of abuse that wasn't justified.

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Aah Wilson, i thought i was blocked!! haha

I didn't block you either.. too much tacoma love.
NO, I meant the long post, not you. I had a feeling that didn't come out right. No, I only block people who feel the need to send nasty PM's. If you can't say it here, I don't want to hear it.
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NO, I meant the long post, not you. I had a feeling that didn't come out right. No, I only block people who feel the need to send nasty PM's. If you can't say it here, I don't want to hear it.
Oh well now don't we both look silly! Its sort of like, oh how do they say, "Arguing on the internet is like winning at the special olympics - win or loose, you're still a retard"

But i started it:

I'd be the same way with my blocking policys - i've yet to block anyone, but i figure i'd have to really look like a tool to make it happen - I'm pretty damn toolish though.. hm.
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The other weekend i got a ticket at Fiesta Island down in San Diego. I was having a bonfire with my girlfriend then we were packing up and i decided to do a little donut in the sand before we left. I only did about half of a donut in the sand then i left. 30 seconds later a cop pulls me over and said i was offroading and thinks thats what i went there for. I have traffic court in march. should i plead guilty or not guilty?
I've been an officer for 14 years. I always recommend people go to court. Here in Houston officers seldom go to court. If the officer no-shows, then it's dismissed. Most of the time the courts are overwhelmed by the # of tickets and the prosecutor is just trying to resolve them without going to trial (since this is timely and they can't possibly go to trial on all of the cases). Reduced fines, dismissal, deferred adjudication, leniency are VERY VERY common.

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Fight it......even if found guilty they might reduce your fine.
Very true!!!

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Guilty -- shouldn't have done the donut...
True as well!!! But I am willing to bet if you go to court you won't paying the full fine

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On the ticket it says . Left Burnout type turn in the sand. Dont you think i could say that i was stuck in a rut or hole or something soo i gassed it ahah
Is losing your integrity by lying worth it?

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fight..i hate all these dumb ass cops in cali. i was in san diego with my girlfriend over on friars road, theres a VONS over there and i turned left onto a street i wasn't supposed to between 6am-7pm mon-fri, and it was 6:30 on friday so i turned left, then i got pulled over 5 seconds later. and he asked why i turned when there was a sign, and asked why i was driving in that area so i pointed to my fuckin decal, then he gave me a ticket..good times

Stupid cops....don't they teach them in police Academy that 6:30 really means 7PM It's all their fault for making you make that illegal turn
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I'd definitely take it to court for a reduced/drop fine... but ultimately you did do it. It's not a big deal, but still illegal. They make it illegal for dust control and such, not tearing up the land.... I've done a few in the desert myself before realizing it was illegal in the areas I was... Live and learn.
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efff that im gunna lie haha and turning does help in some situations
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efff that im gunna lie haha and turning does help in some situations
Then we know all we need to know.

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Then we know all we need to know.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing this out. I never knew such a feature existed.

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