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Old 01-09-2014, 06:36 PM   #21
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While searching "REAR DISC CONVERSION", I came across this thread...

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Old 01-09-2014, 08:46 PM   #22
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Are the TRD models brakes the same as the, let's say, SR5 brakes?
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Are the TRD models brakes the same as the, let's say, SR5 brakes?
Exactly the same.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:23 PM   #24
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I have the tundra racing rear disc kit, swapped to discs since I have toasted a few sets of drums getting rocks and sand stuck in them. They work pretty good, stop a little better but the ebrake is lacking. Luckily I dont tow or have the truck loaded much. Its nice not having to worry about shit getting stuck in the brakes anymore. And they are super easy to work on. Plus I can pull axles and the third without disconnecting the brake lines. It was a little expensive but well worth the cost for me.
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Exactly the same.
Thanks! Just wondering, because I all the time read complaints against the Tacoma brakes about things I have never experienced myself( like mushy pedal, for example).
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Thanks! Just wondering, because I all the time read complaints against the Tacoma brakes about things I have never experienced myself( like mushy pedal, for example).
iirc sport vs offroad have something different as far as brake booster or something. Maybe thats why theres some who complain, and some who dont.

I HATED mine at first...

took braided lines, abs killswitch, EBC stage 5 front kit, and now I love my brakes.
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OR uses a hydraulic booster, sport and other models use a vacuum booster.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:07 AM   #28
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Can't speak for the Off Roads as I don't have any experience with them, but Sports and SR5s are identical.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:55 PM   #29
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I still wish Toyota would put rear disk brakes on. I mean I know discs are more expensive but disc breaks work good and the tundra has them so shouldn't the Tacoma get some.
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What happens to disc brakes when they are submerged in mud?

On pavement, particularly on a fast car, 4-wheel disc brakes are very nice. But they are also exposed to the elements. I would never ford a stream in a car like that. It would get stuck in a puddle.
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What happens to disc brakes when they are submerged in mud?

On pavement, particularly on a fast car, 4-wheel disc brakes are very nice. But they are also exposed to the elements. I would never ford a stream in a car like that. It would get stuck in a puddle.
I have been through mud in my wuad and it has disk brakes it still works fine after many times through the mud.
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What happens to disc brakes when they are submerged in mud?

On pavement, particularly on a fast car, 4-wheel disc brakes are very nice. But they are also exposed to the elements. I would never ford a stream in a car like that. It would get stuck in a puddle.
They self clean, so you dont need to worry at all about mud. Drums on the other hand fill up with mud, sand, and grit then grind themselves to garbage. Thats why I now have disks on the back of my 07.
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I think my auto teacher in highschool said something about how the shoes on drum brakes are positioned that allows them to stop with less pedal pressure. Not necessarily better, just with less driver force. He claimed that was part of the reasoning for brake boosters becoming more commonplace. It allowed the driver to have the low maintenance-high performance discs, and the easy pedal pressure.
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That's just what he said though, could be wrong.
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What happens to disc brakes when they are submerged in mud?
The same thing that happens to the front disc brakes on your truck.
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On pavement, particularly on a fast car, 4-wheel disc brakes are very nice. But they are also exposed to the elements. I would never ford a stream in a car like that. It would get stuck in a puddle.
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Drums on the other hand fill up with mud, sand, and grit then grind themselves to garbage.
The drums on the back of my '11 beg to differ. They see cubic amounts of mud and dirt, and had they not gummed up with oil after a wheel seal went back, at the 81k (miles) I estimate they were at a little more than 50% wear. Contrast with my Silverado that got treated to new rear brake pads every six weeks (I was able to do this in 15 minutes flat, I got that good at it).

It's not a race car, I'll take the maintenance free drums, thanks very much...
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The drums on the back of my '11 beg to differ. They see cubic amounts of mud and dirt, and had they not gummed up with oil after a wheel seal went back, at the 81k (miles) I estimate they were at a little more than 50% wear. Contrast with my Silverado that got treated to new rear brake pads every six weeks (I was able to do this in 15 minutes flat, I got that good at it).

It's not a race car, I'll take the maintenance free drums, thanks very much...
And I will take not having to rebuild the drum brakes every year for a quick pad change and not having the disconnect any brake lines to replace and axle shaft or remove a third member.
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Every year? Not in my experience. 81 thousand miles, about half of them in the woods, and still only half worn. I dunno...
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I have gone through 3 sets of drums and 2 sets of pads in the last three years. Purely from getting sand, rocks or mud stuck in them and grinding everything to shit.
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I think my auto teacher in highschool said something about how the shoes on drum brakes are positioned that allows them to stop with less pedal pressure. Not necessarily better, just with less driver force. He claimed that was part of the reasoning for brake boosters becoming more commonplace. It allowed the driver to have the low maintenance-high performance discs, and the easy pedal pressure.
He is correct. Drum brakes are self-energizing.

Another reason for the prevalence of brake boosters is that low friction brake linings became more common; perhaps they had more resistance to fading. This required high effort to stop, even with all drum brakes.

Rear drum brakes are better as parking brakes than the miniature drum brakes used with rear disks.
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