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Old 07-16-2013, 08:15 PM   #1
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sport vs off road axles

Looking at getting my first Tacoma and was wondering people's opinions on how much stronger the 8.4'' rear end is versus the 8". Have there been any problems with the trd off road axles. It seems that most really built up Tacoma's on this site are either sports or sr5's. Does anyone run 35's on the 8"?

I'm not sure how much off roading I would be doing but it seems like a sport with arb is a much better setup than the e-locker, but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Sport with Arb is superior to the e-locker yes. That's why I got a sport.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:21 PM   #4
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plent of guys run 33+ tires with an offroad, I've had no issues with mine and I'm generating a fuckload more torque than most stock trucks
Yes I agree, however are you running oem Toyota ring and pinion? The photos of failures I have seen indicated the oem gear is weak under high loads.

The bearing support truss on the 8.4 seems to beef up the carrier bearing supports, but still it seems the weak ring gear and fewer bolts is a problem.

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8.4 is stronger. A number of people have blown up the factory ring and pinion on the 8". Although it's pretty rare once someone regears so possibly the factory gears are the real weak link.
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Sport with Arb is superior to the e-locker yes. That's why I got a sport.
I'll plant the mandatory A-TRAC derp seedling here.
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I'll plant the mandatory A-TRAC derp seedling here.
Because A-trac makes my offroad so much more capable
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The axles are fine I mean I have the off road and it does pretty well but its your choice
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How hard do you plan to push your truck?
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Sport with Arb is superior to the e-locker yes. That's why I got a sport.
i got it for the hood scoopz
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I blew up a stock side gear?

running nitro gears

Suppose ARB would have fixed that issue though.
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Sport with Arb is superior to the e-locker yes. That's why I got a sport.
Anything with an ARB is superior to stock. What I've seen and experienced the TRD Offroad is better than the TRD Sport stock, got the money sure drop an air locker in there.

All in all, I'd pit my 4Runner up against your locked Sport.
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Because A-trac makes my offroad so much more capable
I see it sprouted.

The OP is still shopping. No need for anyone to go DK over A-TRAC, but it's worth mentioning if wildcats is really going to take the truck offroad and isn't sure they want to go ARB.
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I like that the factory Sport saves one tire during a burnout. Nice feature.
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Thanks for the replies. This message board has awesome support. I've done plenty of reading, just looking for a direct comparison between the two. A couple of you who have replied have pretty sweat rigs that are off road models so I probably shouldn't worry about it too much.
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How common is a LSD in a non-sport? I just bought another 05 a few weeks ago and it has a LSD in it and it's an SR5. Didn't know it when I bought it but I was pretty psyched when I was underneath it a few days later and saw the tag. Jacked it up and sure enough it's a limited slip.

As for durability of an 8" I would assume the 8" TRD Off Road 3rd member is very similar to the original 8" they have used since the late 70's. I know a lot of guys who have swapped in domestic V8's in older trucks and beat the crap out of them. Only one broke a diff and it had aftermarket 5.29 gears in it so it was weaker than stock anyhow.
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Well if you push it hard enough to go through a few ring gear sets the question is not "sport or offroad axle", it's "D60 or 14 bolt"

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How common is a LSD in a non-sport? I just bought another 05 a few weeks ago and it has a LSD in it and it's an SR5. Didn't know it when I bought it but I was pretty psyched when I was underneath it a few days later and saw the tag. Jacked it up and sure enough it's a limited slip.

As for durability of an 8" I would assume the 8" TRD Off Road 3rd member is very similar to the original 8" they have used since the late 70's. I know a lot of guys who have swapped in domestic V8's in older trucks and beat the crap out of them. Only one broke a diff and it had aftermarket 5.29 gears in it so it was weaker than stock anyhow.
My 11 SR5 came with LSD also.
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