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Old 10-04-2013, 11:58 AM   #1
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Couple of questions for new purchase

planning on getting a v6 AC 4x4 TRD sport edition with entune, and I just a have a few quick questions that I couldn't find definitive answers on using the search function. sorry if I missed them but here goes:

- The dealer offers an upgrade to leather seating surfaces, which as I understand it, isn't offered as a standard Tacoma feature and something the dealer adds on using aftermarket parts. My main question is, would the Okole seat covers still fit over the leather the factory uses, or is there really no way to tell until the leather is actually installed?

- I really like the look of the powder coated OEM tube steps, but feel like the price is way high compared to aftermarket options. Obviously when I buy my truck I'll try to get a cheaper price, but if I'm not able to, which aftermarket tube steps most closely resembles the OEM step? I'd rather install it myself and pay less instead of letting the dealership do it.

- Pretty much the same question regarding the bug guard. I didn't notice too many differences in the bug guards so I would imagine it's not a big deal. Just curious if any particular guard (heard good things about the WeatherTech) looked better than others.

- Any other tips or things to watch out for when buying? This is the first time I've purchased a new vehicle and first truck I'll ever own. I know about sites like Truecar.com so I plan on doing as much research as possible, just looking for a head's up on any other tips you may know of.

Thanks a bunch and I'm looking forward to spending a lot of time and money on my future truck!
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1. most of the time dealers will either go local or go through katskinz for leather seats and i dont see why the wet okoles wouldnt fit.

2.go aftermarket steps or if anything you can just get sliders which will also work as steps

3. any kind of guards just default to weathertech you cant go wrong with weather tec. pricey but worth it
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not sure about the leather with wet okole covers i would do one or the other

tube steps N-fab are my favorite

i have lund bug guard as long as it screws on and not double sided tape get whatever brand ive had bad experiece with the double sided taped ones on previous cars

as far as buying goes make them show you the invoice it will show the price of the vehicle before mark up that price minus any rebates would be ur best price or anything below invoice .
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- The dealer offers an upgrade to leather seating surfaces, which as I understand it, isn't offered as a standard Tacoma feature and something the dealer adds on using aftermarket parts. My main question is, would the Okole seat covers still fit over the leather the factory uses, or is there really no way to tell until the leather is actually installed? Yes

- I really like the look of the powder coated OEM tube steps, but feel like the price is way high compared to aftermarket options. Obviously when I buy my truck I'll try to get a cheaper price, but if I'm not able to, which aftermarket tube steps most closely resembles the OEM step? I'd rather install it myself and pay less instead of letting the dealership do it. Westins, don't go with OEM steps. Just upgrade after you purchase to rock sliders you will eventually go that route anyways. They are way more badass than tubes and help protect the side of your truck whether its car doors or actually rocks.

- Pretty much the same question regarding the bug guard. I didn't notice too many differences in the bug guards so I would imagine it's not a big deal. Just curious if any particular guard (heard good things about the WeatherTech) looked better than others. Personal preference

- Any other tips or things to watch out for when buying? This is the first time I've purchased a new vehicle and first truck I'll ever own. I know about sites like Truecar.com so I plan on doing as much research as possible, just looking for a head's up on any other tips you may know of. Get a price they wanna sell it to you for with all options out the door and respond back in here and people will chime in and make sure you aren't getting ripped off.
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I have worked for a dealership as a salesperson.
First things first, know what you want before you walk in.
Hands down easiest way to get the right price is to walk in and IMMEDIATELY ask to speak to the sales manager/supervisor.
DONT work with a salesperson, its bullshit and their job is to run back and forth between you and the manager. They have NO SAY in what the actual price is and the higher the price they sell it for the more of a commission they get. You will only waste your time and get frustrated which is the point.
If they say you cant work with the manager then tell them youll buy your truck elsewhere, and START TO WALK AWAY. Sometimes they will let you get as far as actually driving out before sending someone out running after you. NOT KIDDING.
If at any point they want information about you tell them your name, phone number, and zip code. NOTHING MORE!!!! Even if they hassle you, thats all they need to give you a price. Also this way if you end up walking out they have your number to call you up and accept your offer later if they initially turn you down.

THE MONEY SHOT!
When you have met the manager, ask to see the invoice. He may bullshit you and say he cant show it to you, again reminding them that you can buy a truck anywhere helps here. Once you've seen invoice price (what they actually paid for it) you can decide whats appropriate to pay.
IE an MSRP of 35K may be "on sale" for 33K with rebates etc. However invoice is probably 26-28k and a dealership doesnt deserve to make 6K on selling a car and will prbably let it go for $30K-$31K. be reasonable with them and find something that works for you, but STAY FIRM if you feel your price is right. Walk out if you need to.

Also anything aside from "shipping" is on the dealer. Assembly, etc all usually gets put on the quote at full rate labor which is profit for them. Dont buy their bullshit when they say its all costs to them, THEY ARE LYING.

The whole process should take under an hour.

Anyways, I hope this helps.
I was outselling 30 year sales veterans by simply remaining honest and not putting my customers through the bullshit they wanted me to.
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Good stuff guys thanks for the responses.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:20 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by NorCalTRD View Post
I have worked for a dealership as a salesperson.
First things first, know what you want before you walk in.
Hands down easiest way to get the right price is to walk in and IMMEDIATELY ask to speak to the sales manager/supervisor.
DONT work with a salesperson, its bullshit and their job is to run back and forth between you and the manager. They have NO SAY in what the actual price is and the higher the price they sell it for the more of a commission they get. You will only waste your time and get frustrated which is the point.
If they say you cant work with the manager then tell them youll buy your truck elsewhere, and START TO WALK AWAY. Sometimes they will let you get as far as actually driving out before sending someone out running after you. NOT KIDDING.
If at any point they want information about you tell them your name, phone number, and zip code. NOTHING MORE!!!! Even if they hassle you, thats all they need to give you a price. Also this way if you end up walking out they have your number to call you up and accept your offer later if they initially turn you down.

THE MONEY SHOT!
When you have met the manager, ask to see the invoice. He may bullshit you and say he cant show it to you, again reminding them that you can buy a truck anywhere helps here. Once you've seen invoice price (what they actually paid for it) you can decide whats appropriate to pay.
IE an MSRP of 35K may be "on sale" for 33K with rebates etc. However invoice is probably 26-28k and a dealership doesnt deserve to make 6K on selling a car and will prbably let it go for $30K-$31K. be reasonable with them and find something that works for you, but STAY FIRM if you feel your price is right. Walk out if you need to.

Also anything aside from "shipping" is on the dealer. Assembly, etc all usually gets put on the quote at full rate labor which is profit for them. Dont buy their bullshit when they say its all costs to them, THEY ARE LYING.

The whole process should take under an hour.

Anyways, I hope this helps.
I was outselling 30 year sales veterans by simply remaining honest and not putting my customers through the bullshit they wanted me to.
+1

This is great advice. I bought my car this way.
Emailed the dealer my excel spreadsheet showing invoice, the options I wanted, all the way down to the final details and mentioned I was ready to put a deposit down.
He emailed me back saying call him.
After 4 minutes and 28 seconds later I bought the car.
I picked it up 2 months later. (it was ordered from factory).
I never even met the guy. His day off when I grabbed the keys.
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My question is why get the upgrade to leather seats when you plan on getting seat covers? Unless it's a free upgrade I see it as a waste of money.
Well I prefer leather, as this will be a daily driver/haul stuff for the house kind of truck, however, I just wanted to keep my options open in case I wanted to get okele's in the future to keep the leather in good shape. I have dogs I have to haul to the vet at times and I don't want to screw up the leather.

Just trying to find out my options, not committed to anything one way or the other.
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Thanks NorCal.
My credit union has a program where they have an employee that was a "car salesman". He claims to have 20 years experience selling.
This guy will accompany me to the dealer and negotiate for me.
I thinks its a way the credit union finances the vehicle, as opposed the dealer doing it in house.
It's taking some money away from the dealer, but it may be a way to get a better deal...(??)
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