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Old 03-01-2014, 07:59 AM   #21
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Everybody is just trying to help. At this point, I think there are too many unknowns.

If it was my problem (if it is a problem), I'd follow the FSM bleeding process closely and see if that helped.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:09 PM   #22
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Wrong. Not all toyotas are soft pedal feeling.

And please go back through and real all comments before asking pretty much every question that's already been asked.
Wow....get up on the wrong side of the bed today or what?

The questions weren't directed towards you anyways - so - Thank You for your deep and sincere response.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:04 PM   #23
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Wow....get up on the wrong side of the bed today or what?

The questions weren't directed towards you anyways - so - Thank You for your deep and sincere response.
Sensitive much? Apparently. The questions were already answered but hey not every one passed reading comprehension.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:15 PM   #24
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Lighten up, folks. We all want to help the OP, right?
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:16 PM   #25
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Lighten up, folks. We all want to help the OP, right?
Trying but asking the same questions over because there too lazy to read helps no one. And them being sensitive for being called out.

But your right let's move forward.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #26
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Sorry to cause all the hard feelings.
It drives and stops with no noticeable problems. It may have been spongy from the get go. I just noticed that after I replaced the front pads and felt that the pedal wasn't as stiff as I thought it should be. In fact, if I pushed hard enough the pedal would go to the floor. I bled the brakes and it didn't make any noticeable difference. Since I was afraid I would screw up the anti-lock, I didn't go any farther. That is when I queried the group. I have been driving since then. The fluid is clean and clear. The truck is a 2007 model with 101K miles on it. I haven't experienced any other problems with the truck. It is still as tight as the day I bought it. Can't complain.

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Sorry to cause all the hard feelings.
It drives and stops with no noticeable problems. It may have been spongy from the get go. I just noticed that after I replaced the front pads and felt that the pedal wasn't as stiff as I thought it should be. In fact, if I pushed hard enough the pedal would go to the floor. I bled the brakes and it didn't make any noticeable difference. Since I was afraid I would screw up the anti-lock, I didn't go any farther. That is when I queried the group. I have been driving since then. The fluid is clean and clear. The truck is a 2007 model with 101K miles on it. I haven't experienced any other problems with the truck. It is still as tight as the day I bought it. Can't complain.

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Don't worry about it. TW excels at hurt feelings. We've even adopted the U.S. Army report.

If you feel like investigating further, you could always take it in for a free inspection. We can theorize all we want, but having a shop take a look would probably find a problem, if there is one.
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:54 PM   #28
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Sorry to cause all the hard feelings.
It drives and stops with no noticeable problems. It may have been spongy from the get go. I just noticed that after I replaced the front pads and felt that the pedal wasn't as stiff as I thought it should be. In fact, if I pushed hard enough the pedal would go to the floor. I bled the brakes and it didn't make any noticeable difference. Since I was afraid I would screw up the anti-lock, I didn't go any farther. That is when I queried the group. I have been driving since then. The fluid is clean and clear. The truck is a 2007 model with 101K miles on it. I haven't experienced any other problems with the truck. It is still as tight as the day I bought it. Can't complain.

Randy
No hurt feelings here...... I don't know what I said but it was obviously not taken the same way it was meant to be taken. Different frame of mind I guess....

Hope it continues to be solid for you. This has always been a great forum and resource - don't be afraid to stop back often!!
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:50 PM   #29
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I thought I had figured this problem out, but it came back again. I'm just accepting that I have to "pre-pump" my brakes to see wtf they are going to do.
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:12 AM   #30
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I thought I had figured this problem out, but it came back again. I'm just accepting that I have to "pre-pump" my brakes to see wtf they are going to do.
Thats terrible... I have accepted a similar issue with my ignition...
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:55 PM   #31
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The old "is my key going to turn the ignition this time, or tomorrow, or the next day?" I had that about 10 years ago. After months of finding the sweet spot that allowed me to turn the key, it finally refused to turn and left me stranded. The new ignition started to do it last summer so I got a few new Keys cut and it's less finicky with the sharper edged new keys. It happened with both of my door locks to. On a month long trip with lots of valuables in my truck and I couldn't lock it. It seems that the brakes, ignition, and door locks are a common problem on first gens. I don't know if the later generations are better, or just too new to know what will fail.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:07 AM   #32
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^ my key always turns, but sometimes it does nothing and sometimes it starts (2nd gen)
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:33 AM   #33
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Hmm... after reading all this I think I am going to flush all my brake fluid. I added longer brake lines and we bled the brakes and a week or so later I noticed that when sitting at a stop light the brake pedal would start creeping to the floor after a few seconds. If I let go of the pedal and push it again the brakes are solid but after a second or two it starts creeping to the floor again.

It hasn't affected my brake performance or anything other than sitting on the brakes. I've started just putting it in park at stop lights.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:49 PM   #34
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I have question for you guys??

my Brake pedal went limp over the last couple days. Y. what would you do first?
-check brake fluid
-check if brake lines
-bleed brakes
-get new shoes and rotor

Granted i just replace the shoes and rotors front/back not that long ago.

or just take to a mechanic

Not sure if it is the master brake cylinder
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:18 PM   #35
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Limp, as in it goes to the floor with little resistance?
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:32 PM   #36
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ive had the same spongy brake issues with my 08 since the truck hit 50k kms. replaced calipers multiple times, rotors, pads, master cylinder, booster. everything short of the brake lines themselves which are next on the list. nothing helps.
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A full brake system flush can make a world of difference in pedal feel.
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